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i almost downvoted on principle oh wow
Anytime I see zoomer trollfaces I reach for the downvote, just assuming it's something fucked up
Why do some cis men have this strange idea that their penis is somehow necessary for basic life-to-life living on the same level as fingers.
I have no clue, and I'm cis AF.
Yep, because it's just that easy, no bullshit checks required, no years and years of waiting, no hope that the million people you have to see beforehand approve of it, you just go in and say "cut it off of me" and the doctor says "with pleasure".
I hate that people genuinely think that's the case, it's almost 100 times easier to get plastic surgery than it is to get SRS, and you'll face much less discrimination and abuse even though SRS could, in some cases, save lives and should be deemed more fucking important than fucking cosmetic surgery.
I'm sorry for ranting, it's just people like this really get to me. A lot of what I said is probably wrong so take it with a grain of salt. This is just important to me because had I not learned about SRS, I would probably have never accepted being trans, and thus I would almost definitely have killed myself. Even now it's very likely I will, it's just my discovery of stuff like this has allowed me to keep living, even if it's just for a few more years. Again, I'm very sorry for ranting.
Dont apologize, friend! It's ok to rant. You are absolutely right, and I hope you are doing better now!
The difference is that I don't have dicks on my hands
i, too, use my dliongus as my main way of interacting with the world
I use my fingers for a lot and their presence doesn't make me feel like shit so not really comparable lol
Not to mention the fact that we're not ruining any part of our body in that area, just changing it's shape. It still works just the same as it always did lol
Except trans people aren't the only ones who get surgeries to change their body. Some people may want to get breast reduction surgery, but it's not no simple as "cutting your boobs out" like some claim it is. Or they may want bigger breasts. I don't think it's simple to get those surgeries, but I bet it's way easier for cis people than it is for trans people, who get questioned every step of the way to prove they really want those surgeries.
My mom, a cis woman, just recently got breast reduction surgery. She was so large it was causing back and spine issues, and it still took years to even have our insurance consider it. I can't even imagine what it would have been like if she was trans and was getting full top surgery.
Went to the doctor as a grown adult and told him I wanted my tonsils removed, which is super dangerous the older you get. He agreed with basically no questions asked. If I went to a doctor for SRS I'd be referred to teams of doctors and psychologists and yadayada just to feel comfortable in my body. This comparison is asinine
It is dangerous for adults? I never knew that! I got mine removed as little kid.
They don't remove the penis, they turn it inside out. Cis people really be out here thinking doctors take a pair of shears to trans womens' dicks and call it good, huh?
(They're just as bad with top surgery for trans men. I've had so many creeps bemoan the loss of my breasts. Especially gross, as I'm a minor.)
TERF zombies: hEaLtHy BrEaSt TiSsUe
I know I don't have to say anything about it since I'm on this sub and everyone agrees, but I will anyways.
This would imply that not having a penis is a disability, and therefore the half of the population that doesn't have a penis should get bottom surgery to get a penis to be the most healthy, the same way someone without an arm should have access to a prosthetic limb.
It also implies that trans people cut off their dicks, which isn't the case. The penis is turned into a vagina. Which, again, means this meme implies that having a vagina is inherently worse than having a penis.
And if we follow this logic, it would make sense if it was inherently worse to not have tits, so everyone without tits should go on estrogen to grow tits and everyone without a penis should have surgery.
And in reality, it's not even always bad to go to the doctor and say "I want this part of my body removed" even disregarding trans issues. My dad had a weird thing on his neck when I was a kid. It wasn't at all harmful, it was just there. One day he went to the doctor to cut it off (we're in Canada, I doubt he'd do it with the US's healthcare). The only reason to get it cut off was because he didn't want it there. Had absolutely nothing to do with his health. I somehow doubt the creator of this meme would say my dad shouldn't have been allowed to do this.
The main difference in this situation and say, a trans man getting rid of his tits, is that my dad was merely minorly annoyed with this thing, while many trans men and enbies experience actual pain from the mere existence of their tits (and also they have to go through much more pain to get the surgery, while my dad just had to ask his doctor).
Also, breast reduction surgery is a thing that many women do.
Being born with 9 fingers is a birth defect. Do conservatives thinking being born female is a birth defect?
I mean I think we know the answer to that question unfortunately...
So real. Exacty when I came out to my mom as trans mtf she used to compare me with people with body integrity disorder. I tried so hard to tell her that is not the same thing whatsoever and I got through her shell a little bit but it's funny how people jump into conjectures without doing a little investigation to learn what Gender Dysphoria really is.
Yes because trans people don’t have to get legal and medical verification that they’re mentally sound before getting surgery. /s
So actually this is bullshit
There is actually a mental condition where (much like transgender people) there are people who feel dysmorphia about their bodies
But instead of feeling like the wrong gender
They feel like something shouldn’t be attached
There are people who actually get whole limbs removed as a treatment for their amputation dysmorphia
It’s technical term is “Body Integrity Dysmorphia” or BID for short
Also a doctor would never talk this way to a patient
The dumbest thing about this is that there are people who actually do have their limbs willingly removed and they end up better off mentally speaking, so the meme is wrong on multiple levels.
The way they use "Tik Tok" is so weirdly boomer. Like I basically never go to Tik Tok, but I know it's a recent Chinese site for short videos. It's not some symbol the current generation slaps on things, the website just has a logo it splashes on videos and you keep seeing screen captures of them.
It's like hearing some Pastor talk very seriously about the dangers of the satanic porn that literally pours through the tubes of the internet onto your computer when you connect the computer to the internet tube. And it's like... that's not how technology works, that's not how anything works. Only with Tik Tok...
"Man Compares Fingers to Genitals, Genuinely Thinks it's a Valid Argument" stay tuned for more transphobia at 7!
Theres literally an actual disease where a person feels like a body part is a foreign entity and must be removed. When its removed, their quality of life significantly increases, their anxiety goes down, and many of their depressive symptoms subside. They have to go through years of therapy and take various anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, and drugs for schizophrenia before they can even come near getting the surgery done. Even if the therapist approves it, the patient has to jump through hoops and hurdles to get it done. Just like any other surgery, its quite dangerous, but it is usually deemed unecessary at best and idiotic at worst. Once they get the body part amputated, they are then subjected to extreme social stigma.
So OP is stupid^2
I hope this person realizes how serious Body Integrity Identity Disorder often is. People suffering with it have been known to make many, many attempts to remove the affected limb on their own if they're denied help, sometimes with horrific results. You know what they usually do with these patients? They have them see psychologists and psychiatrists and do their best to alleviate the discomfort. But if that doesn't help and the patient is still under the same immense stress, do you know what they do, my guy? They have them sign a shitload of paperwork so they don't sue, and they safely, surgically remove the healthy limb. Some surgeons refuse but they simply refer them to ones who will. Because in the end it will greatly improve this person's quality of life, same as a trans person getting gender affirming therapies. But even still it's not even really comparable to being trans anyway. Seriously, it's not a condition to make light of. BIID is an absolute nightmare to live with. Being trans is a matter of identity and often causes horrible dysphoria that needs medical intervention of course, but BIID is an actual mental disorder that distorts a person's view of reality. Not the same at all
Cis people: “I’d like to have liposuction, breast implants, a nose job, all of which have high rates of regret”
Society: “sure go ahead”
Trans people: “I’d like to have this plastic surgery/medical treatment with a less than 2% rate of regret that could prevent me from becoming suicidal”
Society: Well how do you KNOW you want it? Here convince these three therapists, every doctor you speak to, and face massive discrimination at every turn. We just have to be sure!”
You know, going to the doctor to remove a finger isn’t that crazy...like if you have an appointment to amputate it.... Context is what matters
The level of ignorance as to the actual process confounds me. Admittedly I know very little other than it's an INCREDIBLY difficult process.
That being said I also don't make shit like this, even as a joke.
Jokes are funny.
If you nutshell something enough it can look bad, observe:
"I want to stick my pee hole stick into another person's oozy flesh hole and put them into nine months of pain to create a goblin"
Goblin children lol
The current known way of "treating" the effects of bodily gender dysphoria is gender affirmation surgery, so idk what point this is making. "Trust my random five second judgment on trans people even though I know absolutely nothing about psychology and am actively contradicting the accepted psychological data in this area" seems about right here.
Also, apparently this memer thinks that a) everyone loves and accepts trans people, and b) it's as easy to transition as it is to walk into a hospital and say "I'd like to have my penis removed". Imagine if that were true.
They really think that’s how it Works huh?
if i had dicks on hands, and i think they shouldn't be on my hands, I'd wanna get them cut off too.
Cis people really think it’s as simple as cutting off your dick.They love downgrading us from are experiences. 😑
and its always always 'dick cutting' (which isnt even what happens) and nvr any other transition surgery, transphobes are extremely obsessed with transfem ppl
The ironic thing is that there is an actual medical disorder where people inexplicably feel extreme discomfort with their body due to the presence of a limb or finger or something with a dysphoria similar to trans dysphoria. And the medical procedure to cure it? Give them the body modification they want. This comic is not only transphobic and gross, it's also factually wrong.
A yes, because you don't need extensive therapy and a therapist note in order to get surgery like that.
If only they knew how hard it it to transition
*sigh* if only they knew you were originally female as a fetus before that mutation happens resulting in your vagina inverting and becoming a penis (oversimplifying it ik, and its like midnight so excuse the inaccuracies if any)
....oh wait, yeah they know, they just choose to ignore reality.
All I want is to go back, and honestly maybe go back to fetus and start over lmao
once i find the perfect wojak to portray you your life is fucking over
See but removing a limb doesn’t tend to actually help someone with body integrity identity disorder, but transition does reliably relieve gender dysphoria.
It’s ironic that they claim to know science when in reality they don’t know shit.
It's always the strawman argument. Always
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Among the obvious transphobia....it is highly unlikely that a trans woman looking to "get her penis cut off" would still be wearing such masculine attire as a collared shirt and tie. So I question why the red hair...
They are so... the word describing the action of having adult fun time that start with an F and ends in ING, jealous of our loving and caring community that they can't handle the fact that they don't have it. So they obviously reacted like spiled kids. " If I can't have it, you can't have it!" 😤
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Hi doc! I’d like to have an unwanted 6th finger I never wanted or asked for, but due to a mistake in my body ended up with at birth, removed because it causes me a great deal of pain that I struggle to ignore daily and that could possibly kill me
Ever tried discussing this with an actual trans person? It's really not as simple as that.
Idk, I mean it’s not like the neuroscientific community have discovered that the brain of transgender people are more similar to their Cisgender counterparts (MTF is closer to Biological Female and Vice verse to FTM if I wasn’t clear), there is already a significant hormonal imbalance closer to the counterparts, that different cells can get different XY chromosome combinations accidentally (this is a bit of a stretch, but due to twin transgender studies, it can be concluded that cells may have XX instead of XY in different places and basically causes the brain to have a different gender thank the rest of the body), or anything silly like that. Or the fact that in gender dysphoria that leads to transgender surgery/ hormonal treatments, the reassignment surgery/ hormonal treatments show significant improvements for transgender individual’s mental health and have lower suicide rate than “realignment treatments”. And let’s not forget the fact that already in our current society, the response to BODY dysmorphia from the public is “just go to the gym” “eat less” “eat more” and basically pushing for said individual to actually change the bodies how they feel they need to be changed even though the behaviors are risky/ unhealthy because they A: aren’t usually medically regulated but rather peer-pressured and B: usually caused by creating harmful habits that develop into eating disorders (anorexia, binging, purging). And yet no one bats an eye or think that it’s irresponsible UNSAFELY and UNMEDICALLY changing THE ENTIRE FUCKING BODY. But oh no. That 11th finger is too far. Those two chest bean bags must go, unless of course you have breast cancer in which they really don’t matter then. Those dangling fruit sacks? Gotta keep them like god intended..... unless you didn’t wanna have kids/ they were slightly twisted/ cancer again/ you’re in a cult etc etc etc. And you can’t hurt the poor ovaries.... unless all of the reasons above as well. No. Only this specific group of people can’t get very common types of treatment, because they WANT to change their BIOLOGICALLY (not really) GOD GIVEN SEX. And no one has the right to change that except GOD....... or the parents of intersex child of course but those poor people would suffer if they didn’t choose the gender for the baby, even though studies find those kids are highly prone to suicide from shockingly young ages if done these procedures and feel incorrect. Because this makes far more sense then letting people be what they are.
Tldr: fucking let people be themselves and stop forcing your way of life and views on what people should physically be onto them. It’s unscientific, hypocritical, and just plain fucking stupid. Trans lives matter.
Oh jeez, I’m not even trans but wow
Is someone holding these poor souls hostage and forcing them to be together?