I've given up on caring about KD, I just try to play the objective and enjoy the game as best I can. If I win, fuck yea! If I lose, better luck next time.
I went like 19/23 yesterday and ended up in third place on the winning team. Its not all about the kills if you actually ptfo and act like an actual team member you will have just as much if not more fun. Happy gaming!!!
I think score per minute is a better indicator of how much someone can offer to the team than KD
For sure. I’ve been top of the scoreboard with just reviving. If anything it might actually be easier, unless you’re ungodly with vehicles.
Saying K/D doesn't matter is so ignorant and stupid, it's an arguement most bad players tells themselves to feel better.
Is K/D everything? No, but it can be. If you are not killing and draining tickets you're not gonna win. If you keep dying you can't PTFO, you die - you drain tickets and can't PTFO.
You can revive and try to teamplay how much you want, if none is killing you ain't winning. Simple.
Yeah, K/D doesn't tell the whole story, but saying it doesn't matter is stupid.
kd doesn’t mean shit when a plane drops a bomb on you 5 times in a game and there’s nothing you can do about it. or a tank lobs a round from across the map. really your kd should only be affected by being killed by infantry
Or cod players
Especially. People I play with always ask me my KD like why does it matter?
Wait until you hear some GTA Online griefers bragging about K/D after blow you up from a flying bike.
The problem with K/D in GTA is that you can get extremely high numbers because killing yourself does not count as a death towards your k/d. So in GTA K/D it is not a skill indicator at all since it can be manipulated by someone barely smart enough to open a door. People stickybomb themselves the second they take damage or you approach them in a tank or something. Most of those players really suck miles of dick, but they appear to be good.
It's a different matter in BF where it matters to an extent, but is far from everything.
It does matter, in some modes more than others. Defending on Rush for example K/D is basically the only thing that matters. You can only drain the tickets by killing and you can only prevent them from arming if you're alive.
Anytime someone says it doesn't matter at all you can bet on 2 things:
1) Their K/D is bad.
2) Their SPM and KPM is also bad.
A good player will have good stats all round. A bad player will have bad stats all round or a few good stats that they've obviously padded.
KD alone? Means nothing
KD, SPM and KPM all high? Good player. All low? Shit player
What’s considered high? Genuinely curious, I have no idea where I stack up
I hate this whole "kd doesn't matter" crap. Yes, it's not the only thing that matters if you play Conquest, but it's one of the most important things. You can't capture objectives if you can't take out many enemies. You can't hold an objective if you get killed easily. KD represents the ratio of taking enemy tickets/depleting your own, and someone going 3 - 25 is hurting the team more than someone going 50 - 3, even if the person going 50 - 3 isn't pushing objectives. They are still keeping the enemy in the respanw screen longer which reduces enemy strength for defending bases.
Of course, if the 50 - 3 guy is slaying but basically sniping with a tank, then he's holding a vehicle that could be used to push objectives and he could be hurting the team. But the guy just blindly running into C and dying over and over, not taking our any enemy forces, is hurting the team just as well.
I'd rather play with a 1.5 kd team than a 0.5 or 5.0. It strikes a good balance of PTFO and draining enemy tickets along the way. The 5.0 players are probably just vehicle camping, the 0.5 kd players won't stay alive long enough to capture anything or get in an advantageous spawn position for the squad lol.
KDR matters in Battlefield just as much as any game. People dying over and over isn't doing a team any favors. Tickets drain when you die and if you're on a Team that dies all the time also while not having objectives you're going to get destroyed.
This idea KDR doesn't matter is absolutely absurd and I have no idea where it comes from.
Ya hear this, AEK noobs?
Fuck AEK players all my homies hate AEK players. And FLIR frag shotgun scrubs
And don't die 50 times trying to take it for less than a minute
Let's all be clear, PTFO or bust, however if you're killing more than dying that's also big.
Great post. This is what I tell my friend when they start Battlefield. Just play the objective and use your class to the best of your ability.
Having a high kdr is a different kind of fun that most don't get to enjoy.
Got my best ever on BF1 the other day: 32:46. 9th on the team. I play to relax, not to sweat my balls off over stats
I mean it matters somewhat, if you got a 0.1 kd you probably don’t even know how to aim. Superb kds don’t matter that much though because it most likely means that player plays extremely passive, but if there’s an obj player (not in a tank) that has a 3.0 or something, that is impressive. I play obj but I don’t suicide on it, if I’m the only one near and there’s a whole team on point, I’m not gonna suicide for literally nothing. Times like those are when I’d play more passive till the team comes, but till then, I’ll just play solo picking off the back lines.
Why doesnt it matter? Last I checked, comparing dying vs getting kills, getting kills is more fun.
There's a range of k/d that skilled players have. Too low, and they're a burden, no matter how much they PTFO. Too high, and they're probably a vehicle hog/sniper, and still probably don't help the team all that much depending on the game mode.
If someone's all TDM, then a high k/d is impressive. If someone's mostly Rush/conquest, then spm is a better indicator
Why do Battlefield players think their game is *that* much different from Call of Duty? The elitism is honestly funny, they’re such similar games
There should be a K/D for infantry maps only
I thought there was infantry K/Ds as well as overall KD. I've certainly looked at mine.
I know this depends on if a player is actually going for flags but surely a higher kd player will be better at taking and defending flags than a low kd player and even if there not they'll still be getting in the enemy teams way
I’ve played 200 hours of battlefield 4 in the past year I have no friggen clue what my KD is lol 😂
I mean, it's not the whole picture, but say I'm 40/10 at the end of the round and the enemy team has all negative KDs. Kinda hard to PTFO when you're dead more often than alive. Don't get me wrong, I see what you're saying, OP, but it's more complicated than that.
Getting kills is only half the battle but it’s more fun when you do.
It kinda does matter though but only in relation to your other stats. A high kd in itself doesn't mean much but a high kd pared with a high spm / kpm is a good indicator of a good player.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that KD matters in Battlefield.
ITT dogshit players trying to rationalize their bad kd.
lol so true.
Plus, what they don't realize is that the good players will score more objectives and be better teamplayers while having higher K/D than many complaining here.
I normally have around 1.00KD and finish top of the leaderboard. Literally there are two rules for winning as a team; keep a high line and PLAY THE DAMN OBJECTIVE
K/D most certainly does matter but it is not everything. 9 times out of 10 the person with a good K/D does more for the team than the person with a bad K/D
I mean, I still play objective a lot and care about teamwork (or atleast as much as you can in a chaotic game like BF)
But I do still want a good K/D of atleast 1.0
PTFOing, Rambo revives and taking out tanks et al. By any means necessary is all way more important to the dub than sitting in spawn 38-3.
It matters for ME..
Let me fix that title: 'When some kid tells you his KD'
Hey if you can ptfo and have a good K/D its worth mentioning.
Oh its another goodfellas day today. I love that movie.
only terrible players think k/d isn't a good metric to evaluate skill. having a high kd doesn't mean your good but having a shit kd certainly means you're trash. along with spm its the only relevant stat we have.
It kind of does, if you go 1-50 you're just dragging down the whole tram.
Some people just focus on having fun instead of getting a number that doesn’t matter a couple more decimals
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Me when I'm playing Hardline.
Idc if I go negative, if I can cheese the entire enemy team with the powerful explosion physics of the Tanker ill do it
Nothing beats seeing your name in the feed after 6 kills with either throwing knife, flashbang, smoke grenade or whatever melee weapon you use.
Battlefield is much more about wins and loses. Always play to have fun though!
Score per minute, thats the index that matters
That Ray Liota laugh is perfect.
All that said, I do miss the old battle page states you could get.
I'd try different weapons and class to find what I thought was fun and what I was best with. Then see if I could tune them to get better KD.
I never cared if my KD was high or low.... But it was nice to know.
I try to get top 5 on my team on conquest. To me that’s an indicator I’m doing good.
This thread must be where all of my teammates reside?
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I don’t get why people get so touchy about a statistic number
SPM is where it's at, no one gives af about kd lol
For as competitive as I am I don't think I've even seen the screen where is shows K/D in any battlefield game lol
A good K/D might be something to care if playing Rush tho
Playing medic is super fun if I get to revive under fire and not die. Most times, die. That one time tho, worth it.
I mean the best way to get score is by playing assault and reviving everyone
lol yeah it's even funnier to hear bitches in airplanes complaining the ground forces didn't take care of the AA like they can somehow control what someone is doing two points away. If you play on PC you probably know exactly who I'm talking about.
I’m a sniper and my kid is 12.1 but does it matter no because I’m A cAmPeR and that doesn’t indicate skill
I feels like people always find a reason to complain about KD. Especially in the "newer" games that are now over 10 years old. I remember once I had gone 50-0 in BF3 with a tank or something - I always play for the team, yet there were people who had just joined whom were complaining that I wasn't a teamplayer while I was playing for the objectives - I was either cheating or not playing for the team. I never really cared much about KD, but sometimes I find that other people care more about it than myself, I feel like that's what a team players mentality should be.
Lol I know I'm straight garbage but I also don't have a squad to play with and just have fun
Watch battlefield 6 be all about K/D..I’m honestly so scared for BF6, fingers crossed though!
Yes I had a 19/27 KD that conquest game, but I revived 48 people. So who *really* won
The only time where it makes sense to bring up kd is when some salty guy on the other team starts talking shit from the bottom of the leaderboard.
Otherwise its stupid to use kd to brag
I literally haven’t glanced at my KD the entire time of playing BF4. I’m not that high level but I couldn’t care less, if I die 30 times but get a nice kill once I’ll be happy.
What if you have a wicked KD and play the objective?
*Laughs in intentional 0.57*
I only measure my kd with how many little birds I take out with the smaw per game.
Solo/Squad capturing flags is either a shit load of kills and captures, and or just captures. I guess either is fine and should be respected. That being said a campy tank/heli can provide great support on certain flags on certain maps. Conquest is always a team effort, but one flag focused squad is often all it takes to tilt the balance. Back in BF3 I was always playing the objective on Rush as infy or air vehicle (bomb runs and keeping the enemy tanks stuck in a respawn cycle). That mode always provided an insane amounts of kills if you really went in for and had to fight for the MCOMS.
Check battlefield states, positive KD since BF3. What ever makes you feel better about yourself.
2,41 without camping or playing with tanks
Yep I'm really good
Enjoy wasting tickets I guess
Then there’s Enlisted where it’s easy at to get 85+ kills per match as infantry
The guy going 24-0, gets killed, leaves server...
Can everyone get on the train of throwing smoke grenades at friendly tanks sitting in the back with absurd kds. Not what the games about.
Anyone else remembered how proud people would get to say they would redeploy just to fill a role? Feels like a lot has changed since then
Lol you probably have a 0.7 kd
Mate of mine topped the scoreboard every game of bf3.
He sucked at gunfights so he just revived anyone who went down remotely near.
It does though, this is just a huge casual/shitter cope.
I remember when I used to get mad about losing in battlefield and took it way too seriously. It got way more fun when I started playing with my friend and we both joined a casual clan and just had fun messing around.
Me, an intellectual: show me your average squad score per match
This meme applies to GTA Online as well
I don't think I've even looked at my KD on BF, damn
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