Posted by u/tronaldodumpo 14 hours ago
No one should live in poverty, full stop.
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And why does it have to be 40 hours? Technology has gotten a lot better and we are still working 1/3 of a day.
Seriously. I have learned so much during lockdown because I am not beholden to my desk. I am bringing all that extra knowledge back into the work I do which in turn improves the value of my work.
We have more empty house than homeless people in this country. There's is no excuse.
You say that, but would I mind if Jeff Bezos had to spend the rest of his days in poverty?
I'd be happier if we could make everyone comfortable and he was simply stripped of his power over others.
I imagine he would be furious and miserable, which would be a self-imposed punishment, but if in the end he was indifferent, or even turned out happier, I can't imagine any of those outcomes being anything but an object lesson in the meaninglessness of wealth.
We can talk about what certain people "deserve", but I've only ever seen that argument used to justify inequality. I'm far more interested in the effect of what happens, and I think abuse can only backfire.
This shouldn’t be controversial yet it is Wtf has happened to workers rights?
They're literally better than ever.
Point to me a time or place in history that had better worker's rights?
Is it perfect? God no. But let's not pretend we still send 8 year olds into coal mines. Which we literally did less than 200 years ago.
So we all agree that people need to do stuff, to keep society functioning. How do we get them to do stuff? Genuine question, I agree the solution is certainly not to let them live in poverty
Not through threat of homelessness or starvation, that's for sure. Maybe through, I dunno, money? I'm not sure what the question is. Do you think people would just stop working if they had their basic needs met?
Well seeing as how poverty is always described in relative terms, there will literally never be an end to poverty.
Should we say raise the poverty line then? On the brink of Homelessness/actual homelessness/starving seems to be the universally set bar at this point in time
I’m all for following the European model that gives plenty of opportunity for people to better themself regardless of their personal finance, access to mental health and healthcare. But even under the perfect scenarios, you can’t help everybody, you can help a significant number of the population, but unfortunately not everyone.
No one should have to work if they don't want to.
Who wants to work? That’s why it is called work...
"He who does not work - he shall not eat" \-Lenin, in his 1917 work The State and Revolution
As a great commie said, if you don't work you get no food.
Define poverty?
How do you avoid poverty if you don't work at all?
well if you contribute nothing or don’t work at all than you’re kind of asking for poverty
I mean, why? We throw out tons and tons of perfectly good food and have literally millions of empty living spaces. It's not a lack of supply that's contingent on you being employed to increase or something.
If someone refuses to work - and I don't mean can't work - if they refuse to provide for themself then they can damn well live in poverty and starve for all I care.
Work then. No one who cant work should live in poverty. No one who works should live in poverty.
What the fuck are you even trying to say?