Definitely the latter. I fucking hate labels so I say I'm a humanitarian. Simple.
I call myself a pragmatist. Does it make more sense to provide birth control or to deal with the consequences of unwanted pregnancies? Does it make more sense to provide food or to deal with desperate people willing to do anything to survive?
I'm so in this boat, I'm regularly treated like a raging lefty and then when I interact with actually far left people, I find myself realising: no, I just think that making sure people don't suffer is more important than making sure nobody can possibly get one penny more than they "earned".
I don't want to get rid of all the incentives of the free market, I just want to curb the worst downsides of it.
You’re normal to the rest of the world, just far-left to US republicans.
Edit wow, thanks for the gold!!!!
Yeah as a brit with family in america, our main two parties are jsut yours but yours are shunted so far right. Here, one party jsut wants to give less money than the other to our free healthcare service, but wouldnt dream of getting rid of it. Over there, the very idea that people should get the things they need to live is 'socialist'
Give more than you take
Sure, that is certainly your choice. I live my the same creed.
However I'm middle class and my taxes are quite high enough, and since I'm already not getting 50 cents on the dollar in disposable income after all is said and done, I would argue that social programs are funded just fine the way they are.
By all means increase the tax revenue base, of course, but I'm squeezed quite dry as it is.
I dont consider myself far left at all. It's just hard not to appear that way if you have a soul and a conscience. The right just seem to go out of their way to be cruel and evil to anybody who isn't rich, male, straight and white. Apparently being against that makes you a communist.
>The right just seem to go out of their way to be cruel and evil to anybody who isn't rich, male, straight and white
You may not consider yourself far left, but if this is how you view the world around you, trust me, you're wearing a set of plenty left-lenses.
And that's coming from a liberal.
So much agree.
I refuse to call myself a Democrat because I think it’s harmful to apply those labels to ourselves, but there only seems to be one way.
Only one side cares about providing direct welfare to help the poor, about creating opportunities for people of color, about equality for sexual minorities, about equal access to health services, and most of all, about climate change and carbon neutralization.
It is truly a clown world...that we have to make a choice, and almost half of people choose the side that opposes these things!
The hardest thing for me about calling myself a democrat is I’ve felt more and more they are no different than Republicans. A few of the “cultural-marzists socialists” like AOC and Bernie this doesn’t apply to but both parties want social class to stay the same. Republicans are just telling people to starve, Dems pretend to be activists and throw pennies at the poor so we don’t rebel. Once I started feeling that I struggle to even call myself a liberal and just go to Leftist usually.
I think its stupid how someone can just die, just because they don't have money
I haven’t seen too many commies in US.
Younger generations, working people, etc do seem to becoming much more sympathetic to communist ideas recently
If there aren't enough resources for everyone, the starvation is an unfortunate evil. If there is overproduction and overconsumption though...
We could be living in a Star Trek style post scarcity society right now. If not for greed.
just because people deserve something doesn't mean we can afford to give it to them for free??
this is kinda missing the point
Have you tried making it suck less? That would probably be effective at stopping it.
Oh my god, if this isnt the truest feeling of being an american anymore.
A LOT of conservativss never accept that life isn't perfect, no matter what you're not going to be happy 100% of the time. Just the way it is. For some reason people think blaming somebody else will change this. Just be grateful we live where we do and we can even fool ourselves into thinking our life should be perfect. Pay your taxes and hope it makes a positive influence.
I will NEVER accept being okay with letting families starve when there are ***more*** than enough resources to supply ALL humans with basic necessities. Nobody expects life to be perfect, as in NOBODY.
We don't really have a far left in the US never really have. Our only "far left" politicians (Bernie and AOC) would be moderates in most European countries. So its mostly the hellscape sadly.
>Our only "far left" politicians (Bernie and AOC) would be moderates in most European countries
No they wouldn't and you yanks can say this is often as you want but that doesn't make it true. This is fact free nonsense spouting pure and simple, it's no better than what your average red-hatter does.
i just call myself human
Hahaha, it always makes me laugh when some Brit starts on about our ‘free’ healthcare.
The annual bill was £140 billion, or thereabouts, before bubonicovid struck.
Paid for by our taxes.
Or, maybe this year, by borrowing or quantitative easing (the Bank of England pretending it has the money... but it doesn’t really... it tells a computer to add a few noughts to whatever is in the account).
But it certainly isn’t ‘free’.
Oh... I meant ‘free at the point of delivery’ I hear you say.
(A meaningless phrase but enough to fool people here who have accepted the idea that the NHS is holy and is to be worshipped by the population)
Well what do you think the rest of Europe does then?
Much better health systems in all those countries (try it, I have) and paid for by a funding system not modelled on the 1940’s.
It sounds like somebody needs to adopt a starving child.
And open up the attic for the homeless, and the spare bedroom for an illegal immigrant.
Every time I take the political compass (1-2 years usually) I travel just a bit further down and left. I can't help but wonder if I'm standing still but the top right is getting top-righter.
Thats honestly how i feel
American “far left” is the centre of the political spectrum.
Hahaha. No it's not. That's literally not how the spectrum works, you egg.
People need to rethink what they know about capitalism. You can't let it go unfettered but the most capitalistic time on earth more people were free and thriving and monarchies collapsed. We need capitalism. Poor people need capitalism.
Only economic system in human history to generate wealth
you get called a comie when you want daddy gov to rule your life and impose beliefs on to others. Not for wanting to end hunger...
Your problem is lumping all poor people in the same basket.
Nope your far left, and when you act like a commie you get called a commie. Tired of the idiots on this app.
Why not celebrate what we have and improve what we don't...problem with liberalism or left wing ideas is that it leans to destroy what we have already built. It's not perfect but it can be improved. Why totally break down the foundation to start over?
What difference does it make... as long as it makes you FEEL better about yourself & your life, right?
Sounds like commie shit to me. Helping other people? Sorry, i only like paying for the lives of the overlord i think has my best interests in mind
Subscribing to an ideology that seeks to empower the most vulnerable members of our society is a natural consequence of being empathetic
I don't really read theory either although I would like to at some point but it seems really obvious that pretty much every problem that people under a certain income level deal with can be traced to "rich people are taking all the money and giving none of it back" and we see over and over again how, when given the choice between stagnating profit margins and absolutely fucking over working class and poor people they always pick the latter.
It's why I don't understand the people I know who identify as conservatives (well the young ones anyway). Things are fucked up and getting worse, what are you trying to conserve exactly? Our crumbling infrastructure? Our failing public education system? The police state that will forever be the enemy of working class people? Our polluted and decaying environment? Shit obviously needs to change to make the world a more equitable place, and we obviously need a strong working class to perform the labor that we all rely on for food and water and shelter and everything else we enjoy and need.
It just seems like 90% of the world (or at least this country, I'm not super well traveled) has the mentality of "fuck you I only care about myself" and it really makes me just want to disappear into the woods and never come back. I honestly don't see anything changing fast enough for it to matter, and if literally every natural disaster of the last 20 years is any indication the rich people are fully prepared for and planning on letting poor people die and kill each other over resources while they dip to their third vacation house and drink champagne.
I noticed you dropped 3 f-bombs in this comment. This might be necessary, but using nicer language makes the whole world a better place.
Maybe you need to blow off some steam - in which case, go get a drink of water and come back later. This is just the internet and sometimes it can be helpful to cool down for a second.
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Nah, saying poor people shouldn't have to starve doesn't mean you're a commie. BUT, saying poor people shouldn't have to starve by giving them freebies when they're perfectly capable of working for it, that makes you a commie. At the very least a socialist, which isn't very far off from communism.
I hope I'm
It’s the party affiliation scarecrows and less the idea itself. People immediately decide what your affiliation is and apply all the wacko shit in “your” party to you.
Brilliant strategy really if your goal is to make sure citizens are pissed at each other and you never actually have to do anything besides get rich at the expense of your constituents.
Far left American tend to be barely left of center in Europe.
Yup Europe is so fucked long term
far left is more than just thinking people should get help when they run out of chips to play. heck even conservatives believe in that, that's one of the reasons why they donate much more to charity than liberals. economic far left is believing no one should ever run out of chips regardless if they suck at the game and dont make any effort to get better. far left nowadays is mostly associated with all the crazy people who go above and beyond to make some the most nonsensical identity politics stuff, like letting transwomen destroying all women's sports record and walk away with all their scholarships. anyways, thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I was talking to my mom about this the other day too. Why is it radical to not want people to go hungry? Why is it radical for every human being to have healthcare? Why is it radical to give a fuck about your fellow human? I work in healthcare(phlebotomy) and the amount of older patients I see who haven’t been to the doctor in years because they didn’t have healthcare is heartbreaking.
the poor would starve if our country was switched to communism today, the problem is the corruption. I cant believe how corrupt you see the government is under capitalism, so you want to give them full power? im so confused...
"why let the lower class starve, when instead we can make the whole country starve?"
No you are just a leftist immune to history
I don't mind being called a leftist..
Means I do not have make excuses for all the democrat silliness in politics.
I’ve just embraced the term. I could explain the meaning and difference of my ideology and that one, at the end they’ll just call me a degenerate either way. I’ve brought up housing all homeless vets around righties and been called a commie. I just want less people to starve and die, if thats communism to you then so be it
Am i far right or just tired of filth, degeneracy and chaos?
I think I saw someone else on twitter say something like "The far left in the US is the reasonable middle for everywhere else."
I think I saw a politician from Australia say that
How about stop killing off jobs for overseas profits that do not benefit non politicians like the majority of people are. Poor people can work too, hence make money and buy food. I have family that uses the "poor crutch " but it's mostly because they're lazy.
I’m a “radical leftist” because I want everyone to have healthcare. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
No. You're a radical leftist because you believe the government's lies when they tell you that they will provide healthcare after they've forced your neighbor to pay for it.
Are you a socialist? If no then you aren’t “left” per say. Probably socially but not economically. I’m sure most people are just empathetic and don’t care about economics or even know much about it to speak on the topic
How many people starve to death in the US every year?
Based on 2018’s WHO data on deaths per 100,000, around 3,000 people per year. I was hoping to find some rates on homelessness or just general % of population who are malnourished, but can’t find any stats for it
I feel so much of what she’s saying!!!
A rose by any other name.... call it whatever you want, compassion and empathy are how we elevate this shit show.
Americans: it's downright adorable what you consider "far left". ^(made by socialist Nordic gang)
I do not understand why I have to pay for other people's children. That is a wrong committed against me. Or why I have to pay for other people's college debts, when I could not afford to go. There is NOTHING FREE. Someone pays. If everyone was held accountable for themselves and the lives they choose to create, 99 percent of all problems would be solved.. It is the abuse of good intentions that has caused the problems. And it starts in the family. Don't have kids if you don't want to pay for them. The government handouts keep people down, not raise them up. Proven. Parents should be responsible for teenage pregnancies, not welfare programs paid by tax dollars. We would be better off paying teens for not having teenage babies in this country.
Yeah, equal rights! Everyone should starve 😤
Except that starvation is almost non existent and that’s a vast exaggeration
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