Notice how robinhoods data is almost 1:1? There’s speculation that every trade no matter the quantity is broken in 1 share lots to lessen the potential price movement
I just cant comprehend why people are still buying GME on rh
33M out of 70m = nearly half the float trading OTC between 2 firms. insane. Shit & Virt are going to evaporate after this is done
Crossing my fingers.
What a shocker! I thought these guys were playing a fair game. 🌈🐻🐻🐻
LOOK, FREE MARKET
This market is free pause not
completely fraudulent system
18 million shares of fucking GameStop being traded in the dark...................... nothing to see here 🤗
18 million as showed so far lol.
Why is no-one talking about nearly ALL of the RH trades being done OTC?
RH was routed through citidel. That was the whole PFOF bullshit.
So OTC is like a two-person juggling act.
If two shorters need to cover their shares, they can keep trading shares between one another to make it look like they’ve covered when in reality they’re just passing the shares back and forth.
Yep. Just need to get rid of one of them and this juggernaut show comes crashing down….
Quick math, the public disclosed is 40 million short of the 80 million volume short? Isn’t that more than retail is supposed to possibly own? Why are they still saying it’s 20% when it’s at least 50%?
I was napkin-mathing that also. Looks like half of what should be the float was traded last month. Retail is for the most part long term holding. On top of half a year of similar activity.
There aren’t any more real shares folks.
Link to source?
Give me a sec
Edit: Here you go! https://otctransparency.finra.org/otctransparency/OtcIssueData
Over the counter, or off exchange.
Does anyone with a wrinkle brain have any info on who Virtu Americas llc is? They are a close second but haven’t heard of them until now.
They're the other big market maker
I see the large number of trades at Robinhood. Must be all the purchases for portfolios leaving their platform
Exactly my thought...
Interesting that they obviously had to buy them!
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We should send this to the two GG 's and clarify we want an expedited response!!!!
DriveWealth is the brokerage or clearing house (sorry I'm mixed up on my terms here) who handle the trades from revolut. They probably handle others but several months back I could not get an answer on if my shares there were being lent out. Revolut say they do not, but revolut also do not hold shares in order to loan them out. I contacted DriveWealth who referred me back to revolut...1 had no answer and the other referred me back to the first one.
Sorry I don't want to take away from the 18m here at the top, but also note the rest too.
This is PFOF orders from retail brokers
That's like 37/38 shares per trade.... Exactly what OTC is purposed for 🙄
18,507,763 ÷ 492,510 = 37.5784511
What’s up with RH and National Financial services shares:trade ratio being 1:1?
bUt wE CLoSeD aLL oUr sHoRt pOsITioNs
Yeah. Looks like too many
That’s a lot of shares… be a shame if a group of individual investors like the stock they were short on
Free market huh
What is citadel is marking our longs as shorts by 'mistake'?
The biggest thing to notice here, imo, is that ATS (Cittadel Connect, for example) data is excluded from the report.
So two market makers jerking each other off
Citadel average trade lot size 37.57
Virtu average trade lot size 39.36
G1 average trade lot size 28.57
Jane street average trade lot size 21.89
Two sigma average trade lot size 17.70
Some big lot trade sizes!
Gotta love that these are designed for large block purchases to not affect the market. I guess RH and NFS classify large blocks as 1 share. All this OTC crap needs to go away. Nobody can look at OTC for a normal security and say that supply/demand is still in play. FFS
Gotta also love how Robbinghood went from 400k OTC trades to 275k in a month.
Business is boomin' /s
I'm more disappointed that people are still fucking buying GME with Robinhood.
Citadel, Virtu, Group One (G1 Services), Jane Street, Two Sigma, the Top 5, are all suspected parts of the Voltron Fund.
I'll go check the rest.
Robinhood also, of course.
The others file X-17A-5 forms and I don't know if or how to get holdings info on that kind of company.
Still, the top 5 and volume by a mile. Good find OP!
What does this mean?
I’m all in for bias, but pull back a sec and take a look at some other tickers. I randomly chose 10 symbols in May and April, Citadel/Virtu activity is at the top for nearly all of them under OTC non-ATS data.
Doesn’t change how fahked this off-exchange volume is, nor my investor strat, but thought it was poo worth flingin’
d/lauer says this is normal dont get too hyped
What website is rhis?
How large is the GameStop share float?
where is 1 sigma security?
Look who is one from the bottom...
Take my free award. Thanks for the info!!
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They are the DMM for GME, of course they will be at the top.
fucking robinhood is even on there 😭
What site is this? I would like to compare it with some other ones just to see the difference in average share size/trade.
This is such a red flag. That is half the fucking float lmao.
The fact that RH has the essentially the same GME “shares” and “trades” is interesting, and a little sus.
What’s Robinhood doing there? Out of all the brokers
So the 18 million with Citadel are short or just borrowed or long or what?
Has a Freetrade user (DriveWealth clearing house) should I be worried? 🇬🇧
I have a question to this one
Since its OTC data, is this only option volumen, and would that mean 18.5 mil contracts on shares?
Also, are numbers here shown in thousands or "ones"
Where do you see this actual price if all those shares were traded the right way?
But seriously what is the SEC doing if a bunch of retards like us could find that.... Don't get me wrong I know Gary hasn't been on the job for that long
Maybe one of us should post this in Pornhub
How is it possible they haven't been liquidated yet
Moon Soon!! 🍻🥂🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀😎👍
Whos this Virtu Americas llc
So robinhood went to dark pool to buy the shares for apes who wanted to transfer out to other brokers.
The top 7 'bad boys' of the market. Love it.
What the actual fuck ..
Only shorts trade OTC
Robinhood is the third highest in # of trades.
And at the bottom of the list is Fidelity
So this is our kill list?
About 37 per trade.
Interesting that virtu also had a similar average of about 39 shares per trade
Thats their ammo to fight during the MOASS
The second name on the list is equally intriguing...
from investopedia. "Robinhood's Recent Developments
In early June 2021, the SEC announced that it was conducting a broad examination of market structure after the meme-stock trading frenzy earlier this year that drove the share prices of companies like GameStop Corp. (GME) to astronomical levels. The SEC will be paying specific attention to the PFOF process whereby trade orders from individual investors are routed by brokerage firms to off-exchange, high-speed traders known as wholesalers, such as Citadel Securities LLC and Virtu Financial Inc. (VIRT). These off-exchange traders must offer prices that are at least as good as the national best offer, which is what is offered by the official exchanges. But with an increasing number of trades happening outside of the official exchanges, the SEC is concerned about a lack of transparency over the prices that off-exchange traders offer to their customers.13
Wow, number 3 is an order of magnitude smaller!
Question / favor request:
The FINRA OTC data has gone around for movie stock and GME. Same data as we were seeing months ago, VIRTU and SHITADEL having the bulk of orders and a crazy amount being routed to OTC.
Can someone (I tried on my phone and can't figure it the fuck out) find what the data for a stock, such as Nike or Puma or fucking... any random "normal" stock looks like?
I would be interested to see what the OTC data looks, as I want to see if the % of orders compared to overall reported volume is similar, and if the players on top are the same.
So the two largest market makers for Retail are the two largest OTC traders?
How is this shocking?
Is one of those susquehanna? I feel like one of those should be susquehanna
Wait wut ROBINHOOD???
Short everything they're long on.
National financial services is clearinghouse for fidelity I believe and 46 million shares on 16 million trades is ballpark around 3 shares per trade.
Is this info just bought or sold or bought and sold?
I'm trying to take away the biggest impact information imply. Thank you for your patience for this smooth brain ape.
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