* Pfizer vaccine is now recommended for Australian adults under the age of 50.
* immunisation providers should only give a first dose of AstraZeneca to adults under 50 where the “benefit clearly outweighs the risk for that individual’s circumstances”.
* people who have already had their first dose of Astrazeneca without any serious adverse events “can safely be given their second dose”.
* the Department of Health further develop and refine resources for informed consent that clearly convey the benefits and the risks of the AstraZeneca vaccine for both immunisation providers and consumers of all ages, and that is underway, that work, and that will be provided overnight and into the morning.
([Source - the Guardian live blog](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2021/apr/08/australia-news-live-international-flights-victoria-federal-parliament-scott-morrison-women-astrazeneca-vaccine-covid-coronavirus-blood-clots-pfizer-aged-care?page=with:block-606ecca18f087dc3964a2e23#block-606ecca18f087dc3964a2e23))
Edit - additional source - **ATAGI statement on AstraZeneca vaccine in response to new vaccine safety concerns** ([Link](https://www.health.gov.au/news/atagi-statement-on-astrazeneca-vaccine-in-response-to-new-vaccine-safety-concerns))
So now we’re waiting for more Pfizer?? Feels like the can is being kicked down the street.
I’m a frontline transport worker. At this rate I’ll never get the damn vaccine.
I had a shot booked tomorrow but I cancelled because I'm under 30 and have issues with blood clotting associated with my Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. So they would have probably turned me away anyway.
So people under 50 get the Pfizer vaccine but when will we actually get some?
I remember the government crowing about the vaccine deals they were making but we only get AstraZeneca and very limited Pfizer.
I can’t help feeling we, as a country, have become victims of putting all our eggs in one basket.
Yep. Scomo and his Scomo government fucked up once again. You couldn't trust these fuckers to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
ScoMo claimed that the order for vaccines from overseas had "secured" our supply.
NOPE. Until they were in the country, there's nothing "secure" or assured about their arrival.
And if I remember correctly (let me know), at that time they had only sent a "letter of intent to purchase", not even a contract was signed.
Then he says that 4 Million people would be vaccinated by April, but that didn't happen because THEY WEREN'T SECURED.
Man, he's a spin doctor dickhead from hell.
So now he's back peddled and under 50s CAN get AZ if they want it.
What the hell was the point of this overly dramatic presser?
The point was to give scotty a new name. Clot morrison
Lol what rollout?
So the rollout will be finished around the same time star citizen is released
Chris Roberts announced as new Health Minister.
So the Liberal Vaccine Rollout is just about as good as the Liberal NBN handout, and the Liberal Handling of the Sexual Assault cases.
Why are they so fucking awful at literally everything?
Because their primary motivation is how they and their mates can profit from it.
Actual quality or effectiveness of delivery does not come into it, and when they are challenged on the outcomes they rely on quid-pro-quo from certain media outlets to shield them.
Scotty talking like the rollout will unfortunately be delayed as if it hasn't already.
Good thing our Pfizer stocks have stupidly been stripped clean already instead of being appropriately given to our health care workers, who are largely under 50.
Brother and mother work in hospital, brother does temperature checking and covid questions, while mother runs hospital after hours and having to deal with problematic patient in what she refers to splash zone.
Brother got Pfizer and mother got astrazenac. Furthermore aunt who is dentist got astrazenac and mother makes out nurses are getting mix of both. It really looks like they already run out of Pfizer and not even giving it to all medical staff who have face to face interactions with patients.
I'm 42. Given the speed of the rollout this won't effect me at all.
Yup. I'm 30 and at this pace i won't be vaccinated until I'm 50 anyway
It’s why would should have gone for every available option you know in case one is a dud, in this case the biggest dud is the PM
Don't worry guys, we can still vaccinate all of the boomers.
UK has the cutoff at 30, I really don’t want to believe that this government is just trying to one-up them at the possible risk to 30 - 50 year olds.
I know I’m being selfish but, fuck, I just want to be able to visit my parents overseas. At this rate I’m looking at another year of wait.
I am just so fucking angry. My dad doesn’t even have a year guaranteed. I might not see him again. I am just so angry.
So, what? Does that mean it'll be finished in 2028 instead of 2024?
Phase 1 complete by mid of the year. After that, they are replanning all prioritisation and allocation. So the schedule is now gone.
What a brilliantly timed announcement to distract from his government shit show, and to reset the clock on why we are so far behind on vaccines for anyone still believing anything he says.
Smirk and mirrors. Business as usual.
[Albanese tweet on this](https://twitter.com/AlboMP/status/1380097016835973123?s=20)
Must be frustrating being opposition and having to constantly say "I told yah so". Guess all we can do is hope voters don't forgive nor forget.
How come we can't produce the Pfizer and other vaccines here
The Pfizer vaccine is an mRNA vaccine which is a relatively new technology and one that’s not been particularly promising until now. There’s no viable mRNA drugs and no approved mRNA vaccines prior to these Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines.
We could produce the UoQ molecular clamp vaccine at CSL, that was our new tech push. Looks like it worked too but it triggers false positive HIV test results because of a peripheral response to an HIV component used. And we could produce AZ.
I don’t know about Novavax and J&J but they were much later to the game from a trials stand point, it may simply be that we had already made our choice.
Why did Scomo make it sound like we were going to suspend the use of AZ? Geez.
cause he’s fucking useless.
So they exeraggerated the speed of the AZ rollout for political purposes, and after relying on only one vaccine, now we're fucked.
All this after the federal government did nothing about protecting us and left it up to states. So they fucked up the one thing they needed to do.
Stop voting for these guys please. They get nothing done except reverse good policies like the carbon tax and blame labor
We also all spent $2000 each on a national broadband network which is already obsolete.
You have forgotten COVIDSafe haven’t you?
The one thing that made sense to roll out nationally which did three fifths of fuckall, cost a bomb, and didn’t trace a single contact in Victoria which had 2/3 of the Covid cases in this country.
Guess our "sovereign capability" is a bit more reduced now then.
>In Australia, we have a domestically produced vaccine, which we're one of only about 20 countries that can say that, to have that sovereign capability to dealing with the problems that we have right now. I can tell you, most of the world would want to be right here at the moment.
Aged like milk, makes it look like Scotty got no fucking idea. Surely you would have your finger on the pulse of the health advisory committee consensus.
This is bad news enough. But the way Scomo delivered his speech was enough to clot my blood already. What a cowardly dishonest pathetic man. You can tell from his wording it is all about avoiding responsibilities, self praising and blaming others. He is no leader.
Sigh, I was in 1b and the advice on the health.gov.au website was always that we’d get Pfizer. Then like 2 days before 1b started (and when I had already booked my shot), they removed all traces of that advice from the website, and I found out on the day (after my shot actually) that it was AZ.
And now they change the advice so that if I had waited, I’d be eligible for Pfizer.
What a cluster fuck.
I mean yeah I didn’t have serious adverse side effects (other than being knocked out with a fever for 12-18 hours), and I wasn’t concerned about blood clots *at all,* but I’d have appreciated the higher efficacy of Pfizer ffs, especially considering my underlying medical conditions making me more at risk.
Oh well, I’m vaccinated with something at least, and AZ seems to be fine and the clotting risk is such a fucking non-issue. And if more people get Pfizer, all the better for herd immunity (assuming Smoko doesn’t fuck this up any more than he has already and people can get their shots before 2025).
Scotty went all in on AZ vaccine because Dave sharma a Lib MP has shares in making it here.
Scotty needs to go to prison.
Ah, so that's where Holden went wrong. Not enough Liberal shareholders.
Who’s ass is he going to pull the Pfizer vaccines out of?
Right now there's lots of things being pulled out of various asses around Parliament House.... Surely it won't be that hard....
how convenient for him
Even ARTPOP had a better rollout... 💀
Oh my I didn't expect popheads to leak here
What a clotsterfuck
Clot Morrison is probably rubbing his hands together in glee that he can blame something else for his bungled vaccine roll-out.
This is a great strategy for avoiding rolling everything out on time. Honestly though I am kinda happy as I wanted the more effective option and can afford to wait a little longer.
Massive backflip by Morrison.
It's effectively confirmed the vaccine rollout won't be completed by the end of 2021. International travel for Australia won't open until early 2022 at the earliest, and that's being optimistic.
This is what happens when you put it all on red and it comes up black. Suck shit Scotty yet another absolute own goal.
At least the States have kept us without an immediate need compared to other countries.
He's not paying the price. He's had his vaccine. It's the rest of us paying the price.
Corrupt. Incompetent. Useless sack of wind.
Great... I got the AZ jab this afternoon, and I'm under 25. No option to change, no information that it might not be recommended in 6 hours time.
"Perfectly safe" at lunchtime.
"Not recommended" at dinner time.
How consistent. I know the risk is low, but fuck me, it doesn't instill great confidence in you when it was put inside you not 6 hours ago.
It was put in me about 11 hours ago.
I read a comment further up about getting struck by lightning that helped reassure me.
This is ridiculously premature and should not have been announced publicly. This is the kind of advice that should be made amongst medical professionals so they can make risk assessments when prescribing medication, not something for front page headlines tomorrow morning. There is no way they have anywhere near enough data to support any conclusion here, they're talking about dozens of cases worldwide, from tens of millions of immunisations, any conclusion drawn for such a small sample will simply be cautious best guessing. That's a fine process to take, but it should remain among the professionals administering the vaccines for them to make informed judgements from, not to use a fuel for the anti-vaxxers.
It's their way of avoiding the criticism of their failed vaccine rollout.
Both left and right wing media are hammering them.
So this way, they no longer have a target or a schedule.
Last I heard causality still hadn't been established - what's going on here? I hear a lot about the raw numbers, or the rate of clots per million vaccinations, but I can't find how this compares to the background rate. I'd love to see a review that actually provides some meaningful numbers.
In any case, what on earth are they doing with this announcement? This is confusing for everyday people and is going to massively detriment public health for quite some time. The scientifically naïve aren't only going to be afraid of this vaccine, but this will decrease their trust of vaccines in general.
It's politically convenient for them right now, so they jumped on it. I doubt a doctor or scientist was even consulted.
The AZ vaccine was already known to be ineffective against the new variants months ago yet they doubled down and now theres a new problem with it.
This government tried to outsource vaccine production at every step but if we had continued to develop the UQ vaccine wed be home and hosed by now.
way to go, fuck head
Either this pushes things back into next year, or we surrender our expectation of no community transmission.
Considering the comparative risk calculation we’ve seen applied here, and in the UK and elsewhere, the latter should be rationally on the table if those risks are to be considered accurate.
This is so risk averse it’s going to be problematic for future approvals of most things, if the precedent isn’t simply ignored in that context.
Edit: To give an idea of the shortfall this is going to create, see page 8 of this from a few weeks ago. https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/03/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-on-14-march-2021-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-presentation-on-14-march-2021.pdf
Novavax is expected to arrive *starting* in October. By December, without replacements, we will be 50,000,000 doses short.
This is a pretty good reason to keep aiming for no local transmission
Fucking hopeless & I bet any money the situation is gravely worse than this born liar is making out.
But given his style & track record we will find out over the coming weeks as the truth is forced out of him.
helping cause more antivaxxers
What I dislike is he’s now saying “it’s not a direction, not a instruction, it’s an advice. It’s for Australian’s to decide for themselves.” And basically you can still get it anyways.
Then why make a big fuss out of this advisory? Why make a huge statement out of this? Just release the advisory, like we already do for side effects.
God I was getting so angry thinking why the f is Lara Bingle breaking this news before I realised who Lara Tingle is.
Laura Tingle is a fucking champion. Best political reporter out there IMHO
Kiwi here. Swap some of your deported criminals for some of our Pfizer?
NZ ordered 7.6 million AZ doses and ordered enough Pfizer doses for the population a few days ago. You'll be waiting a long while too.
I suppose the issue is that even if it’s 1 in a million you’re still going to kill 26 people by vaccinating them. Good odds it won’t be you but still could be you.
Risk of blood clotting from The Pill: above 1 in 2000.
Risk of blood clotting from AZ: 1 in 250000.
Risk of blood clotting from Covid-19: above 1 in 10.
The specific blood clotting from the AZ vaccine has a mortality rate somewhere around 30%, according to the EU. Do you believe that we should continue the AZ vaccine rollout and have approximately another 20-30 deaths placed solely on that vaccine?
So from safe as the pill to suggest we use another vaccine. What a backflip.
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