What sort of inspections are needed after an overweight landing?
Brakes, tyres, landing struts, pilot’s underwear.
Those jagged nacelles always look cool
Still sad Boeing/GE ended up dropping them on the 777X/GE9X after it having them initially.
Looks expensive. Kudos to all involved.
What are these small metal doors open in the 3rd pic on the engine. Ive only seen it closed
My guess is that they're access doors for the idg and other components. Can't say for sure never worked on a 747.
They got it turned around and back on the ground in 15 minutes. Kudos to the crew — *that’s* how you handle an inextinguishable fire! (Now I cant wait to see if some Seminole pilot or Microsoft flight sim warrior will criticize their airmanship for “turning into a dead engine“.)
I'm looking forward to the VASAviation video, one of my favorite YT channels.
The overweight on landing element came in due to unspent fuel I assume
So if I'm understanding you correctly, this aircraft intended to consume about 76 tons of fuel during its flight?
How did they get that first photo?
It's SOP to take photos before starting any work, to document the scope of the task being contracted. This will prevent misunderstandings later. /s
At first I thought that was fuel pouring out of the wing...
For the people asking why they didn't dump fuel, it looks like average dump rate is about 2 tons per minute.
So they'd have had to circle, while dumping fuel, WHILE ON FIRE for roughly 38 minutes.
I can't say I've ever flown a burning plane, but I don't think it's a stretch to think the pilot's response to that idea would have been, "Yeaaahhh...nah."
I assume part of the overweight would be fuel? At 1500 ft I assume was after takeoff which means hardly any fuel was burned
All of the overweight is fuel.
Reminds me of the time a FedEx DC-10 made a successful emergency landing overweight, not because of an engine failure, but because the plane was being hijacked and the Captain and Flight Engineer were in the back fighting the hijacker.
Anyways, hats off to the UPS pilots for a safe and successful landing!
The thing that I want to know is why the first picture even exists. I don't know how long after landing that took place but it essentially implies someone decided to stand next to an engine on fire and take a photo whilst the fire was still being put out. The thing that gets me is that they're like right next to it too.
Oh hell, the boys and I are always doing that. As soon as there is a huge jet engine fire we rush out to take close-ups. Lenny was the best. He ain't here no more, but damn could he take a photo.
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The GEnx engine I ordered arrived late, there are signs of burning, and there's white liquid leaking out from the inside. WTF Amazon? 😤
Woah, did it melt the tarmac?!
Nah. Looks like a unit was flooding it with water before the crash truck got the foam up and running.
Queen of the sky
That's a new engine. What the hell went wrong that it had an inextinguishable fire.
Considering it was an engine fire it looks amazingly good. Not even the external paint is scorched. Credit to good design and the flight crew.
So why can’t the dump fuel? Does it have to do with the fire?
Very much so. At that point who cares about landing over weight. Get it on the ground.
Dumping fuel is for when time is not critical. It's a "nice to do" thing. Not a "need to do" thing.
In the weather at a mountainous and very busy airport. Not the best place to deal with a fire that’s for sure.
76 tons overweight?! That's 152,000 lbs. Seriously? I find that hard to believe, like how did it even take off? Typo?
Edit; response. Thanks to everyone for pointing out its over MLW not MTOW and educating me!
76 tons over landing weight, not MTOW
The fire crew dumping hose into the adjacent engine…are they writing it off?
rentals and insurance i'm sure.
There's a cool video of Boeing doing a MTOW rejected takeoff/stop test with essentially no brakes here
It was a UPS bird https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqGRN8o9Q4&feature=youtu.be
Something about dumping fuel while you’re on fire.
Could they not dump fuel?
Not when you're on fire and you cant get the fire extinguished.
Can someone explain how the plain can even take off carrying 50% over its max takeoff weight?
Max takeoff weight is higher than max landing weight
76 tons? That's like an extra 3 CH-47s at max gross weight on board.
I’m curious to what the investigation is going to find planes not even 2 years old
It's not even a year old. Just got it's airworthiness cert in Nov 2020.
I didn't know your mom was a frequent traveler
Is it considered normal for a plane to fly while 76 tons overweight?
“Overweight” in this situation refers to the landing weight, not takeoff weight
Stayed contained, that's good. It's the small victories!
Fire still burning on the outboard side of engine so that could be an oil tank leak or main fuel line that's also located on that side.
I thought these big commercial planes could dump fuel. Is that not true? Or does it take too long in a situation like this?
Most of the larger planes can dump fuel. The 747 certainly can. When it comes to fire though we no longer really care about our landing weight. As long as we can be reasonably sure that we'll be able to stop on the available runway then the most important thing to do is to get it on the ground as soon as possible.
Plus as you alluded to, dumping fuel would take too long. Someone did the math here and it was over 30 minutes. Way too long to be in the air voluntarily with a plane that's on fire.
It’s called an afterburner
Where was this? I work at SDF and see these all the time, probably worked on it before
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