My apologies for this:
Plato the platypus wrote platitudes on a platinum plate at his place on the plateau.
That was actually quite beautiful
Who looks at a platypus and says “ah yes, these flat feet are surely the most notable aspect of this animal, let’s name it after them”?
Yea should be the amalgamationpus
Damn I like this sub
And we like you!
Extra fun for me because in my native language (Dutch) the word for 'flat' actually still is 'plat'. It's ironic that several of these words don't have 'plat' in them in our language, however. :p
That's really interesting! What is an example?
Ha, I’ve only ever known of platinum as the far more precious metal. Weird to think there was a time when it was inferior.
Also I love that jab at Nike’s slogan; I didn’t know how many others hated it
Yeah funny how that old perception of platinum still hangs around in the name today.
And I think Nike's reputation took a hit when the whole sweat shop thing came out. But that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I thought of "platitude" lol.
Also trees of the genus *Platanus* (Oriental Plane Tree, London Plane Tree, American Sycamore etc.). Probably named so for their broad leaves.
Awesome! I think "platform" could have made it on there too.
On a tangent, 'sycamore' tree is in the same world family as 'sycophant' and that etymology is wild
And Platt in German. Plattdeutsch is quite literally “Flat German”, though it means Low German.
The Platte River in Nebraska comes from the German.
It looks like the Germans borrowed the word from Latin so no Grimm’s Law p->f sound change like in English and Scandinavian.
Platonic relationship is flat:tering
I've heard it that Plato was called that cos he was a big lad, this is the first Ive heard that he was broad chested. Thought he was just a wide boi.
Think buff Iroh when he broke out of jail.
Interesting! Could the word "plan" also derive from this root?
It comes from a Latin root which comes from the same PIE origin as the Greek root above.
My first etymological dictionary was a cheap reprint of Skeat's dictionary from the 1800s, and the thing I most loved about it was that it grouped words of related origin together, like in this picture.
That is awesome! I would love to get my hands on a copy of that. I hadn't ever seen anything like is so I actually built an app to try to do just this: [https://etymologyexplorer.com](https://etymologyexplorer.com)
"Flat-footed"? Sure, that's the first thing I'd think when I saw one of those, not "Venomous Pringle-mouthed beaver"
Hahaha exactly! Someone else has mentioned that in Dutch it is 'vogelbekdier' (lit. bird-muzzle-animal). That is a step in the right direction
Also plaza, pizza, platter,
Probably plaque too
Piazza yes, pizza no.
Plato was his nickname because his first degree was in brolosophy?!?
Yea he was a wrestler 🤼♀️
That's cool. Now do "pus".
Yes good idea!
Isn't "flat" also a cognate?
It is related! But the connection is further back from a reconstructed Proto-Indo-European word \*pleth₂- that meant "flat"
Surely also [plat](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plat) maps?
Awesome post...and, that "plateau" is a mesa
Can a mesa be a plateau? Otherwise I need to work on my geography and googling skills
Shots fired against Nike 😂
Is “just do it” a platitude? Is a company’s slogan a platitude? It’s more of a advertising tool isn’t it?
We can conclude that whoever named platinum was a fool.
Plato was named because he was flat?
Haha probably because he was "broad", which is a subtlety to the meaning of the root, 'platus'. I simplified a bit, but it was either because of the breadth of his chest and shoulders, the width of his forehead, or the breadth of his knowledge. "Knowledge" seems to make the most sense since that is how we know him today, but Seneca is referenced to have said it was because of this frame. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato#Name](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato#Name)
I get the feeling this goes back quite a bit further than Ancient Greek. I’m almost certain that most of these are borrowed through Latin, which shares a root, of course, with Ancient Greek, but that, in turn comes from a further, (unattested) common ancestor language.
From what I've seen this is the latest root that all these words share. This Ancient Greek word is descended from '\*pleth₂-' which is a Proto-Indo-European reconstruction that meant "flat". The English word 'flat' descends from that through Proto-Germanic.
Does it have anything to do with planus/plano/plane?
The Dutch word for flat is ‘plat’ as well.
Fun fact: "Platt" also means flat in German
Was Plato considered as sex symbol (broad chest)
Today I learned Plato’s real name was Aristocles! 🤯
Tbf its more legend than verifiable fact.
Are you telling me aside from being a god their philosopher Plato was called "wide boi" also??
He was a soldier and wrestler yeh
King of the Platypii
I read somewhere that the plural of platypus should be platypodes. I really hope it is true
The platt river known for being a very flat shallow river?
so wait if platinum is inferior why is it typically viewed as more valuable than gold or silver?
That was the perception hundreds of years ago when it got its name
Platonic solids in geometry are solid three-dimensional objects with flat faces.
Platonic relationships between people, though, I don’t know about the implications of that.
Platonic solids in geometry are named after Plato as he first described them in his work _Timaeus_.
Platonic relationships are named after Plato because he discussed various forms of love in his work _Symposium_.
I'm about to throw hands.
Mad that I'm dissin your platinum rims?
I wonder if platform is one too
A few people have pointed out that it is!
So it should actually be “Park Broad Way” next to Boardwalk? Dyslexics would have fun with that
Its interesting how "park place" is right next to "broadway" in the game Monopoly
Also russian: blyat
Til Plato was a swole boy
As he wades across the plateau looking for a place where he can lay out his less than silver plates and remember to just do it for Plato always giving thanks that he was not a lowly flat footed platypus but THE GREAT WALRUS!
Did you mean, rumduck? https://twitter.com/JamesFosdike/status/782911425249366016 https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDollop/comments/55hj28/the_dollop_209_john_macarthur_live_in_adelaide/
Anybody want to trade my silver for their.... inferior silver?
I couldn't get no silver, I couldn't get no gold. You know that we're too damn poor to keep you from the gallows pole.
All this to shade Nike lol
Wow I had never even thought of this. I still have a lot to learn
I can’t get over that Plato’s name is a ridiculous nickname akin to “Flatso”, making fun of (? probably not admiring) the shape of his chest.
He was a wrestler and a soldier. Likely a flattering name. As in “barrel chested”
I’m glad this was on my front page. This is my new favorite sub.
What a great coincidence, the youtube channel Tasting History just did a video about a Roman cheesecake called placenta and talked about the etymology and pronunciation as well. I recommend everyone go watch his channel because its cool as hell.
In Lithuanian, platus means wide/broad
Interesting sub... For the first 5 minutes.
And then for the next 500k minutes after that too? Check out the interactive map etymologynerd just posted!
Fun fact! "Platypus" sounds like a taxonomic name but it is in fact the platypus's common name. The word was already used as the taxonomic name for [a genus of beetle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platypus_(weevil)) that has noticeably flattened and elongated feet, and due the strict rules governing biological classification, could not be reused. As a result the taxonomic name for the platypus is *Ornithorynchus anatinus*, which is a Greek-Latin mashup meaning "bird-nosed like a duck".
does this mean i could go to any place and see a broadway performance?
Plattfuß flat foot, colloquial flat tire (platter Reifen)
A favourite song of mine,
[Platypus - Mr. Bungle](https://youtu.be/hRAeatzbQPo)
On the isolated shore
For millions of years
On purpose or accident?
A vaudeville? A nation including one superior creation
A vertebra? Inverted... quite unheard of...
Orphan in a family
And a sole survivor
He's a living fossil
He's a bird-beaked, beaver-butt Australian
Amphibious? Paradox wearing plaid socks
Furry beetle? A bugbear, and a palezoologist's nightmare
Symmetrical physique of disbelief
The platypus has the brain of a dolphin
and can be seen driving a forklift in his habitat of kelp
He is the larva of the flatworm
and has the ability to regenerate after injury
No relation to the flounder.
Someone shipped him to the blokes
Who said he was a hoax
So they cut him to pieces, wrote a thesis
A cranium of deceit, he's prone to lie and cheat;
It's no wonder -- a blunder from down under
Duckbill, watermole, duckmole!
In civil engineering I work with “plat maps” showing how plots of land are legally divided. Now I’m wondering if that shares the same root.
I saw someone mention the word ‘Plattfuß’ from German. Which is basically the same word as platypus, but one of the Ps changed to an F in the German word. So I wonder why the P in ‘platt’ didn’t change in German, but it did for ‘fuß’. I thought the change should be universal according to Grimm’s Law (seeing how ‘plat’ became ‘flat’ in English). I might be totally off base, but that was just something I noticed.
TIL Plato got his nickname from his fat fucking tits
Was Plato diddling them kids? What are the odds the name "Plato" is not in reference to his broad chest but biggus dickus?
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