I've been fat. I've been thin.
And, oh my God, one FEELS SO MUCH BETTER. Guess which one.
I find it so very sad that some people have been fat for so long, or for their whole lives, and don't know how awesome it feels to be fit and healthy.
Fuck "beauty standards". Fuck "diet culture society".
It just feels so damn good.
I remember when I was obese. I used to think I was still somehow healthy, and I at least thought I felt fine. Come to find out after losing 100+ lb that I had felt terrible that whole time, without me even realizing it because I had been obese for almost my whole entire life. Never again.
"Everyone should be fat" was my first introduction to FA-type rhetoric, years ago before it was relatively mainstream. In a "health and fitness" thread in a community that wasn't about that topic, one of the self-described radical feminist members posted a link to an essay in between everyone else's "I've started running" and "I've lost 10 pounds" type posts.
It was all about how round is the most feminine shape and therefore all women should aspire to be "round" (aka fat) and anything else was letting patriarchal beauty standards dictate what you did with your body, and so on. I remember wondering then (as I do now) why it was ok for the essay writer to dictate how I looked and tell me I should change my body accordingly, but it wasn't ok for anyone else to do so.
GOODNESS!!!! I think you have a point there. Somebody recently shared a screenshot here where the person had listed reasons that they "won't collude with anybody's desire to lose weight" and one of them is "bodily autonomy". It's so ironic that they argue this point. Supporting bodily autonomy would, in my mind, mean supporting people in whatever decision they wanna make with their own body, but they argue that if that decision is to "conform" then that's not bodily autonomy.
This pisses me off so much. There are millions of people in the world who don’t have this person’s privilege, people, children, starving to death, doing backbreaking work and living on tiny amounts of food because that’s all they can get and literally wasting away. Many people don’t have the PRIVILEGE of being fat.
It’s not DIET CULTURE. It’s you stuffing your face non-stop because you have the PRIVILEGE of being able to afford to eat the amount of food in a day that would feed a small village in a developing country. I want to take this spoiled, self-absorbed, whiny fool and drop her in South Sudan or Yemen or Bangladesh and see how she does. The ignorance and entitlement of these people is mind-boggling.
It's like they have no conception of any time or place other than the small area and time they personally inhabit. Like they have no idea that other people struggle to eat and therefore can't get fat, or that for the majority of human history, the vast, vast majority of people weren't fat. It's so weird, it's such a self centred view of the world.
Anything, absolutely any and every mental stretch to avoid reducing portion size and doing a modicum of physical activity. The human mind is the architect of its own misery.
Sometimes I believe giving our species knowledge was a mistake.
these people really forget that other than the past 100 years or so, being fat just wasn't a thing.
like, for 99.99% of human history, being fat was reserved to a TINY minority of uber wealthy people who chose to get fat.
was there a "diet culture" in 16th century europe? how about in 2nd century India?
Also being fat isn't the natural state for any other animal species (excluding ones where its needed to stay warm). Like there's no such thing as fatphobia and diet culture outside for them and being fit and healthy is still their natural state
I don’t want to be fat.
I have enough health issues and mobility difficulties as it is. I do not want to imagine what it would be like to be fat.
You are opressed and you don't even know it! Brainwashed!
Sooo what about the Romans, the Greeks, ancient Egyptians, any other ancient cultures who left visual representations of themselves? Were they living under diet culture too?
Yeeeah, who's gonna tell them that not anyone has the privilege to shove a truckload of food down their throat. In some parts of the world people can barely afford food. Also, not everyone wants to end up diabetic and short of breath, and some people actually have a healthy relationship with food. So no thanks, hun!
It's not only the privilege but I also don't enjoy eating that much. I just don't like the foods that would make me fat. I don't like sweets and snacks and that's not because of diet culture.
These people should really "check their privilege" instead of telling everybody else to do so.
They're finally saying the quiet bit out loud.
Humans aren't born fat
Well, yes and no. Humans aren't born with a bunch of adult fat, but they have plenty of brown fat (commonly referred to as baby fat), which functions differently from the fat that people focus on putting on and losing. So yes, babies aren't born with excess amounts of adult fat, but they are technically born fat.
In my opinion, I have always believed that we should all be high. The only reason we are not high is because we live in this sobriety culture society and under these laws that were created. What do you think?
Tbh I would be down for that tho
tell that to Don Gorske, the man who has been eating three big macs a day since 1972, for a grand total of 30,000 big macs as of 2018.
Not only is he still as skinny as a rail, but has no major health issues and below average cholesterol. He's practically living proof that debunks the claim made above, since it certainly isn't diet culture and beauty standards keeping him thin.
Being fat HURTS. It’s painful! Are there fat people that truly don’t have any inflammation, joint, breathing, energy issues as a result of the excess tissue? I don’t think that makes up the bulk! It sucks.
I was at a BBQ once and heard the woman hosting it announce, "If I have to be fat, everyone has to be fat."
My mom’s old best friend, who was 400lb for as long as my mom can remember, said to my mom (the FIRST time she met her) “You are SO lean and I’m going to ruin you. Just you wait.” My mom always thought she was kidding, but there was definitely some truth behind that.
Literally admit that dieting works.
We all have flaws, some more so than others. I'm more vain than I am gluttonous. Even shoving aside *every other possible reason* why I don't want to be overweight, that's what it comes down to.
😅😅😅 if they think this is diet culture wait until they hear about sourcing food a century or two ago
They’re thinking everybody who’s thin must be struggling to be that way. Guess who doesn’t struggle at all? People who genuinely enjoy healthy food; people who aren’t addicted to sugar; and people are very active - people who walk all day, people who genuinely love multiple-hour activities like hiking or team sports or full evenings of dancing.
They can’t conceive of what it’s like to truly be routinely active & healthy - and to truly enjoy it.
This reminds me of the FA’s who define daily exercise of an hour a day (which is actually pretty minimal) as “orthorexia”. Like anything longer than 30 minutes, 3x/wk, is suspect. Hello, we evolved being active 3-4 hours per day, every single day, and some of us genuinely enjoy living like that.
How many wild animals are fat? Almost none.
"In my opinion, I have always believed that we should all be fat," typed NestléCEO247. He moved the cursor toward the "post" button, then paused. "Hmmmm" he said, as he took a moment to consider, and then checked the "post anonymously" box.
Who told you?!?
So.. being fat IS a choice. Glad this one admitted it. If they personally want to stay fat then it's no problem of mine but I'm sure as hell not going back that particular hole thank you very much.
People who genuinly do not want to eat much and and active don't exist in their world. It is all diet culture
I'm having this weirdly proud moment now because just yesterday I commented on another post saying I think they want everyone to be fat :D
They go on and on about diet culture, but the bigger problem is consumerism and capitalism.
I agree, and think we’d all agree, that there’s some problematic weight loss shit being peddled. MLM poop tea, 99% of GNC’s products, waist slimmer belts, whatever. That’s just the other side of coin from fast food, processed deep fried corn mush, alcohol, soda, etc.
At least in the US, we buy, buy, buy. Amazon will send you literally whatever you want in 2 days. Uber will deliver your burrito to your door. Unless you’re a homesteader or live off the grid, you’re not immune. Even if you’re obsessed with Marie Kondo-ing your life, you’re still buying her books and probably a Netflix subscription.
So, no. Diet culture isn’t oppressing us, except in the sense that it’s another product shoved down our gullets. It’s just one cog in the machine making us fat.
I have a friend who is obese and wanting to loose weight but not at the point of making it happen with the effort yet. But whenever she gets "motivated to lose weight" it never gets much further than the purchasing of things. Like, buying a ton of expensive, workout clothes, but not really doing much from there. She does not think much about like, a full plan for exercise and eating, but only about finding cute leggings or something. The mind is definitely of a consumer.
I thought being fat was all about genetics. So the ONLY reason we're NOT all fat is because of society?
My take on it to add to what people have said below: it's really really hard be mentally or emotionally healthy if you're not physically healthy. In other words, if you feel like crap physically all the time, it's hard to be in a healthy state of mind.
Growing up, my dad always stressed the importance of balancing your...ok maybe when I was a kid I wasn't paying attention, 4 or 5 "healths"?
To me, the last 4 are hard to achieve/balance if you don't have physical health. Just my 2 cents.
YES!!!!! I keep a "Five Healths" journal and challenge myself to perform and record at least 1 task for the benefit of each every day. Neat to hear somebody else also has this concept of 5 healths.
The only time Ive put on considerable weight was during pregnancy. When my due date came along my knees were crying for help, they just couldnt take the extra 40 pounds. I imagine I would be severaly impaired if I kept the weight. And that's just 40 pounds above my usual self. I can confidently say I was not built to be fat. (I lost it all by the time my baby was 6 months, no crash diet, just breastfeeding and eating nice, nurturing, home cooked meals).
I personally was meant to be "bigger", even at my smallest fighting weight I get CALLED "fat", but I CERTAINLY wasn't built to be my top weight, and I really wasn't meant to me fat. I was just built in such a way that like, I'm not gonna ever look healthy and dainty at the same time, but I'm still way happier with muscle on that frame than fat.
> What do you think?
Usually I would think that your failure to provide any sort of an argument in favour of your position poses a bit of a problem for me to find a position here.
Luckily, though, you are demonstrably, completely, objectively and fractally wrong in your insane, dangerous and delusional opinion.
Like most of your ilk, you are mistaking the act of throwing out a bunch of buzzwords that - to you - have very specific connotations with logical reasoning.
The echo chamber may agree with you, but that doesn't mean you're right.
Actually, in this case, the echo chamber didn't even agree. This was a question sent into a fat liberation page, and they said something along the lines of "just like we're born to be fat, many skinny people are born to be skinny".
Omg we made our way to boss level. We have found the source.
I don't really care about looking attractive. What I do care about though is heart disease, liver disease, and diabetes. Heart disease is the number one cause of death. It completely swamps everything else. The only other thing that causes as much death is cancer. I don't want to die in my 40s from heart disease.
I think I feel energetic and stronk from exercising and that I don’t want to obliterate all my joints like all my extended family has (,:
Yes, I do actually wish everyone could be fat. Meaning: I wish everyone could have enough food to live, more than they need, and we wouldn't have any children dying from starvation in the 21st century. It is mind-boggling how someone can live with this much privilege, eating more than their fair share (which is not only unecological but also unethical from a global viewpoint) and then cry about 'diet culture'. Know your privilege!
Well, anonymous, I think you're wrong. You're wrong. Your opinion is narrow-minded First World balderdash. You don't even realize how wrong and stupid your statement is because you lack not only education on the subject, but the self-awareness to realize you DON'T know anything. That's what I think.
"As someone who smokes I believe everyone should smoke. The only reason we aren't all Chainsmokers is because of the anti lung cancer industry"
This isn't to say the diet industry is completely made up. It absolutely exists and can be very harmful to people. But wanting to be at a healthy body fat percentage and not overeating does not at all fall under that
Right. The diet industry DOES exist. Magazines with "the secret to abs in 10 days", poop teas, VShred, Garcinia Cambogia pills...
But not ALL weight management is tied to this industry.
To easily disprove this you can look at the tribes in Africa who have basically not been touched by modern society. The body types are all different, but you won’t see anyone morbidly obese.
Isn’t diet culture something that was mainly born in the last 50 years maybe..?
And even that is taking liberties with time.
Since most people from before the 2000/1990’s weren’t fat.
Heck if you look at old videos there are barely overweight people to be seen.
They un-ironically want the society from Wall-E to be real lmao
Ah yes, lets all be fat and get heart disease
I think if we all ate the way they recommend — mostly junk food, fast food and processed food, whenever we felt the slightest twinge of what might conceivably be hunger — we certainly would be. And our average age of death would be even lower than it is now, with only most people following that way of eating.
I was scrolling through tumblr the other day and someone reblogged a TikTok that was basically a girl saying “I’ll never be thin because my ancestors were peasants and peasants are fat because they had less food. It’s in my genes.”
And I was was just... [insert confused face gif of your choice here]
The reference to beauty standards is typical and disturbing. FA's are so focused on being percieved as attractive. Appearance should be the absolute least of their concerns.
I think the OP who wrote this is likely depressed and posting this drivel in an attempt to lift their mood through community/belonging, but it doesn't make the thoughts they are expressing any more palatable.
As a slim girl who's been told to "fatten up" by quite a few people, please delete this woman
Society's beauty standards are shit but it doesn't sound like this person wants to end them, just flip them so that they are the ones who are praised.
Please be a troll. Oh my god.
We could all be fat and it wouldn't change this person's butthurt. Their dream is really a world where everyone is just as fat as they are. Because a world of smallfats is just as fat phobic as the world we are in now.
So basically that person think we should all look like the humans in Wall-E? Hmmm no thank you.
Starving children around the world are just stupid slaves to diet culture, it’s the only reason they’re malnourished.
Wow. Talk about saying the quiet part outloud.
"My way of living is the only valid choice. Everyone else is a socialized sheep"
Never heard that one before... *rolls eyes*
Why would anyone want to be fat? I used to be and it just feels like shit. My sleep was awful, my back and knees were starting to hurt, I was always tired or had a shit mood. Then I decided to stop being like that and it's all gone. No more terrible sleep, no more pain, much more stable mood, and loads more energy. It just feels so much better.
I literally cannot overeat or I get incredibly sick.
That's what the post is basically suggesting? To over-consume and get fat?
This idiot. No, we should all be skinny. The only reason we aren't skinny is because we live in a society where food is addictive, plentiful and more than what our bodies need to survive. Our food today is barely meant for consumption.
Anyone who’s been fat then thin… do they regret it?
My hiatal hernia disagrees wholeheartedly.
The human body is not meant to be obese, hence the extensive list of problematic health issues that come a long with it. If you live an active life style and aren't constantly just sitting around doing nothing, it's pretty damn hard to be "fat"
What in the fuck
They want everyone to be fat so they can feel smaller by comparison
Let's all over consume! That'll show em
>What do you think?
I think you're loonier than a Canadian who only pays with one-dollar coins, buster.
I think you're fucking wrong sweetheart
I think they want to believe that everyone would just gorge themselves with food if they could because then that makes them feel better. Like there’s nothing wrong with them for binge eating and everyone else is just starving themselves.
I’ve been fat gorging myself with fast food and fit and eating healthy. Not a tough decision. I’d rather be fit eating a healthy balanced diet.
Is it really so hard to believe that not everyone constantly wants to eat cake (or unhealthy stuff)?
The complacency and mediocrity are depressing.
"Everyone else just give up and accept a painful early death like I did. You working hard makes me feel bad and my feefees are all that matters."
I showed this to my mom, the first thing she said was "No."
Only when everyone else is fat will the shame become manageable, I guess.
Is the anon a troll??
I can't believe I'm reading this. I mean, really? What's happening to people?
I think this person really needs to take a biology class and a history of Western Civilization class.