"You want to see me do it again?"
Literally thought of that line lol
My problem is that i would've died to this.... multiple times.
Same. They do it so much because sadly it works 80% of the time.
I love how you didn’t parry it once late in the clip cause logic says “there’s no way he’ll do it again”
And that's how they get you it's the same with gryphon dodge spam tbh at least for me you're sitting there like "there's no way he's that dumb" and then you eat the attack cause you gave them too much credit
They didn’t do a single fake out, which means they are not even spamming the character, they’re just that bad.
it reminds me how i successfully hit nature's wrath 5 times in a row against peps in dominion. idk why but a lot of peps in dominion i encountered were so dumb it was not even funny
I play since...idk shaman wasn't released yet lol. And that move it's still fucks me up a lot.
He moves to the right but the hit comes from the left. The same happen with nobushi dodge attack.
Overall i just hate kensei since i play for honor. On ps4 he's worse dodge attack light spam dodge attack. You can't even try to attack because those stupid i-frames he haa
To be fair, it's dominion. That dodge heavy has insane value against almost any attack thrown. It's amazing when you use it on reaction versus spammy characters. Now this guy was opening with it. But it could be that because it's dominion, and dominion games are pretty brainless, he could have just been on autopilot. I bet, while it didn't work on you, it works on 50% of the playerbase in dom.
Good patience on your part though.
I've been playing a fair amount of Kensei lately for the first time. Love his heavy game. But that dodge attack is *so damna ttractive* To just use. Especially in ganks. It lets you get around *so much bullshit* lmao.
After playing near exclusively assassins and warden for the last 4 years kensei is almost a whole different game in the 'difficulty' department. Things are so much easier on him.
In times like these, i miss kreadiv :(
"Fucking Idiot" lol
"How he's played now" bro they've always been played like this lol
You wouldn't tried to dodge heavy against a pre CCU Jorm parry punish... 😂
OO OO OO HE WANTS BANANA.
My god I wish every Kensei *actually* played like this
I don't know if these types of players are just saving steel to get Gryphon or are just brand new players who just started the gsme
Kensei, you bring shame to our name
Im scared for our future...
The first rule of dodge attackers: If dodge attacks don't work, you are simply not dodge attacking enough.
“Some guy keeps spamming dodge heavies look” I swear since gryphon launched this is all this sub Reddit has said
Nah, these posts have been around since long before Gryphon.
I wish stamina penalty on parries still existed. Solely to stop mess like this.
Yeah. I like it being gone because there's less staring during fights...but this kind of tactic is just able to be used constantly with little to no risk of punishment.
Kenseis have been doing this forever, CCU changed nothing in regards to this.
Dodge heavies just should have higher guard break vulnerability so they have about equal punish to light dodge attacks.
Oh very true lol. I agree, if the GB vulnerability was higher it wouldn't be spammed nearly as much. But it's ridiculously safe now.
I don’t play for honor much but whose the character your using?
Thor from wish.com
This has honestly been a problem for years. I rarely meet a kensei who has taken the time to look through their moveset
Dude I wonder why they keep doing it after they failed the first 30 times
He’s literally thinking “okay he’ll definitely attack me for no reason this time and my dash will work”
Well, good for me that people think every Kensei does this, so I can fake dodge attack and get a free GB. But yeah, this causes me mental pain to watch happening for every Kensei posted here. Same with Gryphon
Wait? There is no longer stamina penalty on parry? What the hell happened to FH? (Haven't played in a while)
Yeah, they took it out to encourage more attacking. It is nice to be able to attack for longer, but in these cases, you wish it was still in the game lol
New players do this
I saw a rep 70 Kensei doing this a few days ago. Lol it usually is new players but some people truly amaze me with how single minded and repetitive they are. Basically as soon I called out he just lights and does dodge heavies to my teammates...we stomped TF out of him every single engagement, the "Wow! Wow! Wow!" became incessant from him.
The only reason people die to guys like this is because they mistakenly think these one tricks have more than one brain cell to use to try something new.
It gets me every time because I know how kensei dodge attack work’s but I am always hit with orochi dodge attacks so mush I can never get the parry on kensei dodge attack.
The community stopped adapting so playstyles like this become more and more viable
Lucky you that he did that. For me they just do and endless barrage of unreactable lights and I’m forced to do the guessing game.
Played a rep 70 kensei that spammed me in brawls and said “Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!” every single round because I killed his team mate while he was afk. Guess I should’ve just let him get kicked? Hate this community a lot lol.
Lol that's a mood 🤣
I lose sometimes to these guys because I just can't believe they're going to do it again
I remember back pre-season five where that dodge attack was a light parry. It was really unhealthy back then, but man honestly it might be a good idea to make most dodge attacks light parries.
Hasn't kenseis dodge attack always been a heavy? I do remember the early days though, when a parry guaranteed a guard break.
Brain dead samurai
We're not all like that. It's just-.... dumbasses.
As a BP, I love meeting Kensei's that spam dodge attacks. Most stop after 2-3 flips, but I have met a few smoothbrains.
Black Prior main here.
I ran into a rep 26 who would not stop spamming, even after multiple flips.
The heroes I've gotten the most Hamarr Slams (the OOS Jorgen slam) are Orochi and Kensei due to the BS amount of dodge attacks I've seen them throw without any or fact. I've consecutively parried Orochi's dodge attack around 3 times in a row. What does he do? DoDgE aTTaCk.
I stamina penalty on parry back.
I hate it being gone :c
Ya boi here is sick of getting lightspammed to death.
Meh, I feel this has always been a thing. Most of the idiots that would do this just play gryphon now. 🤷🏽♂️
hope you meet some day worthy kensei)
I’ve been compaining about this for a whole year
The fact u almost died 2 him tho XD
As a Kensei main I find myself even falling into doing this. Thing is, if the person is smart enough, they know how to counter it or at least parry it. I know how to do his fakes and all that. This is just so easy to do against some people. I like to do it against spammy Gryphons
Please excuse my ignorance but when did they remove stamina penalty?
I wanna say it was the CCU update if I remember right?
As Kensei is my #2 main, that Kensei upsets me
All I can think as an avid kensie player when I see people just light spam and dodge spam is "Boy got a brain smoother then a Koala"
The light chain is super easy to parry even on Xbox one and Ps4 cause the second and 3rd are really easy to read. The Dodge heavies should never be used outright rather you should use them out of baiting a top heavy or in reaction to an attack.
The number 1 thing with kensie is Flow and repeatedly spamming 2 chains is not flow.
Well He is only dodge attacking
i am a kensie main and this makes me feel soooooo disappointend
So, if I play kensei and not dodge spam and use my other mix ups... I might find some success? (Slightly honest question)
Oh definitely. Kensei has great mix-ups and soft feints, I would respect a Kensei who uses their whole kit a whole lot more than one who plays like the one in this clip lol
I’m telling you I took a break for a very long time after the ‘rework’, and I come back to seeing a Kensei play like that every game. I miss the good ol days
As a Kensei main, whenever I see him played like this I just feel disrespected.
Literally how they play this game. Find one move, spam it like there's no tomorrow. Got me sick to the point I stopped playing... Sad.
It makes me sad man. Not real Kensei players tbh
Always has been
Well when near every starter in the game is a thrust might as well dodge to your hearts content
bruh, I'm dumbfounded. how can someone does the exact same thing over and over again and expect different results? it's like the definition of insanity.
Maaan Kensei use to be so much fun. Now I rarely play him due to being immediately labeled a spammer before fighting.
People complain about me playing him too. But I play a lot of heroes.
Jesus, my Orochi would love to fight this guy lmfao
Right, would be perfect deflect practice. I kinda wish I had been an assassin to get the practice in.
His dodge attack is one of the best in the game. Why would you not do it on reaction for innumerate enemy attacks?
This clip. This clip is why lol.
But this also separates the trash from the good, let them spam it to their hearts content I say. It’s so fucking easy to read and makes for clips like this where you basically make them your bitch without even trying. Hell, he made *himself* your bitch for you.
LMFAO exactly! I was like "please, ADD YOURSELF TO MY MEDIA GALLERY" 😂
That’s how he’s always been played. people don’t utilize his full kit
as someone who spent alot of time learning Kensei's extensive kit & is currently teaching two of my friends how to play as & fight against them
all I feel is pain. agony even
TBH it's just said, alot of times these kensei's are rep 40+ in my experience.
I know not all kensei's are like that, but much to many of them are.
look how op this is guys, how could he just parry it???????????? parrying is impossible now!
If You see one do a Bash they might be the real deal.
So Many players have no fucking clue about it.
What do you mean now? Kensei mains have been doing that since season 1.
I mean this applies to many characters.
Like is it fun to just use the same low risk attack for years on end?
I find fun in using risky attacks and mixing combos, when you land them they're that much more satisfying.
You read my mind! I have so much fun outwitting my opponent and turning the fight in my favor through strategy. Waaaay more fun.
Maybe new on kensei
As a kensei main since the beginning of time I have no idea how everyone playing him is now a light/dodge spammer. Especially since the ccu made his zones more viable which are the best option selecting zone behind conq in my opinion
I have a few theories:
1. This works on the typical player they face so they don’t bother changing
2. Something isn’t clicking in their brain
3. They’re memeing
4. They suck
One of those issues where dodge attacks are actually quite op meaning absolute noobs can win by spamming them and end up in your skill based matchmaking. Imo, they should make them guard breakable.
Give Kensei more gb vulnerability on that, then people can stop using that to try and get out of guessing a mixup and prevent them from doing it so often if it can be punished more easily. Making them use their brains. Like I won’t lose to this bs, but my oh my will it take a long time to get rid of his health with pathetic lights after a parry, over, and over again
Yeah, like if it was on the level of Tiandi's GB vulnerability or a little less, that would be a gamechanger.
Bruh, I’ve seen some bad kensei players but damn that dude... that burns my eyes.
That's how he always was played. People complain about 'monke brain', but that playstyle is nothing new.
Even worse is when you are a console player and then he starts triple lighting you and cause of ccu you can't parry it
I still don't get why a Vanguard gives the opponent only a light attack on parry while assassins mostly give the enemy a free heavy. Especially if the Vanguards dodge can dodge out of way more attacks (e.g. Gladiators foot stab usually misses Kensei while hitting other dodges)
Parry punishes aren't based on the type of character, it's based on the type of attack. Light attacks give the opponents a heavy on punish, heavy attacks give the opponents a light attack on punish.
Every Kensei I see now does just the dodge with a light after, or nothing but lights at all. Pretty annoying
You know when people complain about spam? This is what they complain about. Instead of thinking for a millisecond on how to counter it, they go and cry about not being able to press buttons randomly and win because their oponent is spamming an easily counterable move that counters random button mashing.
Yeah. This move is easily counterable but just having to bait it out constantly is just tedious. It's not hard to stop, it's just boring to stop, at least in my opinion.
People keep doing it because it somehow lands on people
Even still there isnt much kensei can do in a 1v1 against a high mmr player sadly
U use to lose stamina when you were parried? That actually makes English I’m kinda new here why did they remove it?
Well young grasshopper, before the days of the CCU (year 4, season 2 was when it began, if I remember correctly.) there was a thing called the turtle meta, where you lost additional stamina on misses, being blocked, and being parried, the first 100ms of attacks were not hidden like they are now. Hence, if you played PC, the best way to win was to throw as little offense as possible.
These are probably kids that play for honor the same way they play smash. Just spam every button and hope the other guy's hp gets to zero before yours. Doubt they even know the game's mechanics. Any kensei that has more brain cells than an amoeba does not play like this.
Exactly! I have 10 reps on Kensei and honestly I've never spammed that attack because it's just stupid. Kensei is a great character with a great kit, why reduce him to this one move and lights?
I just know nearly half of the people on this Reddit who have the Kensei tag do the exact same shit. It's pathetic. That and light spam with him, but that's more bearable.
Look how many time you need to kill someone who spam this shit.
They need to remove that stupid hyper armor after the dodge attack so we can at least deflect. And make this shit a light attack.
i love how kensei mains says he is so bad but this is what they do all the time. there excuse is "its easy to bait" no its easy for you to be baited.
"you want to see me do it again" XD this is the new meta now
I see rep 70 kensei who are doing nothing than lights and Swift strike spam.
I don't get people who refuse to learn the whole kit...
Do they think that they can win a fight by spamming one attack?
Like bitch if you spamm the key for light attacks and i parie it why continue the spamming? Just learn the fucking move Set of the character! Some poor developer spent hours making the move Set and these retards just spamm the same attack over and over and over without ever contributing anything to the fight!
I have a fear that Kensei will going to get nerfed into oblivion cos a lot of noob reddit player will going to force the devs to do it ( wee have seem it happaned in the past so Kensei is in a big danger).
Like i know its frustrating to fight against this kind of shitty kensei players but there are other offenders in this category: Gryphon and Shaman.
Can we stop posting these fucking kensei dodge posts, we get it people who play him often side dodge and we don't need 10 posts each week for that
I just miss when for hobor was still good.
These are the same people who are like " just parry bro its so easy to bait out" like i didnt get on forhonor to play parry into light simulator. There is no fun in playing people like this. Gyrphons even worse cuz he gets a 50/50 off a fuckin UNGAURDBREACKBLE DODGE ATTACK. Who thought that was a good fuckin idea!!!!!!! And they wonder why people leave the game
It’s so sad to see because Kensei is a mixup God. Easily one of the most versatile kits in the game and has superior block on the dodge but these monke brains only spam swift strike or triple light. You’re absolutely right though on how he has fallen...even the supposed high rep Kenseis only use those two moves. I’d say 1 in 30 I encounter actually uses the kit
I gotta agree unfortunately. I don't think I've seen a superior block GB in months lol
that dude is trolling so obviesly come on
These stupids devs
lets make light faster and remove stamina penalty when you get parried.
When they introduced that shit they basically ruined the game.
I miss the stamina penalty. It happened while we still had it but it was manageable because of it now they can just slap on fast recovery and look at them go
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