As y'all move through medical school and later residency you'll constantly feel less than, or below average. Imposter syndrome is real. Just remember that graduating in the last quartile in medical school still makes you incredibly bright.
Y'all have excellent functional knowledge, and the medical students I work with always impress me with their ability to figure out clinical problems. It just feels daunting to acquire the knowledge required to practice independently, but you'll make it some day.
I just actually just started my first year of med school and in between lockdowns and adjustments to med school and online classes, there are times (or most of the time) when everything feels super overwhelming. To the point that you'll just keep questioning yourself. You're comment literally made me feel 🥺 and I thank you for that. It's really what I need.
I agree with this and hate to see it. I am a surgical assistant with a general surgeon and see it all the time. I try my best to make every student feel equal and always remember how I felt as a newbie, especially around the sterile field!!!
>Medical students are a bunch of ~~above~~ below average people who often feel ~~below~~ above average while in med school
Here, I fixed it for you based on the prevailing personality type at my school.
As a chronically ill person I appreciate you even if you suck at medicine and graduate at the bottom of the class or don't graduate at all. Takes a lot of grit and intelligence and perseverance to even attempt it. And from what I can tell it seems like success is a function of how much physical and emotional punishment you can take as much as it's about intelligence and hard work. I like having qualified doctors but god damn, it's like frat hazing the shit they make you do.
Which makes it crazy that midlevels are seeing patients after 1-2 years, and medical students are seen as horribly dangerous and incompetent after their 3rd year when they have at least 4x the required clinical hours and 2 years of rigorous study.
Not saying we should be seeing patients after third year, but legislative standards say that it’s more than okay for us to go out on our own at that point.
It seems so absurd why doctors don’t just open up “mid level” positions for unmatched MDs? They would be so much more qualified than these fake doctor wannabes (no disrespect to PA and NP who actually practise within their scope)
To pretend to play devil’s advocate while actually making a counter point, we evolved to make relative, not objective, social comparisons because of our genetically-critical history living in *much* smaller, similarly minded groups compared to the plethora and diversity of groups we live in now. Most of us know we’re smarter and/or harder-working than the average person, but the virtual entirety of social feedback we receive now is from an extraordinary sample of the population- other medical students. & we must compete within this extraordinary sample of people to reach our goals. Smart people have smart doubts; doubts aren’t always anxious or dumb. Introspection about these doubts can help declutter an anxious mind and direct a path to success. Affirmation or faking it till you make it absolutely works for some people, but this is for those who cannot shake or become comfortable with their doubts.
why are the bolded words bolded the way they are lmao. i was skimming this while scrolling and read it as "medical students are a bunch of average people who often feel average while in medical school"
Idk. How about we don't rank people? I'm perfectly comfortable not being "above average" compared to the population. I think anybody who becomes a doctor so they can fill a need to feel above average has some issues to work out before they matriculate.
Hey, idk too but I think you missed the point of the post. It wasn't really about ranking people or med students wanting to be more superior than others – because in the first place, we almost never felt that way – but the point is, these students have so much more to offer than what they think they have. They feel so low about themselves that they often forgot that they belong to right where they are and that they can do, and have the courage to do, what others can't. It's not about medical students needing to feel above average. It's about telling them and comforting them that they deserve where they are.
Surprise twist. We're all not that smart, and we're insane too. Because we are insane the pool of applicants weeds out the really smart ones, who end up going into other fields or become administration.
BTW this is a joke.
Remember that. Truth. Our GPA’s were higher we spent our time studying instead of playing with friends and it all paid off. We are living our dreams. Wayne state university representing.
Me reading this: heck yeah that’s right! Me 30 seconds later: But... what if I’m the exception to that?? 😂
*”impostors don’t read textbooks...”*
Laughs in PGY-1
+1 hour without Impostor syndrome
So it never goes away? 🥲
I'm a prof at a med school, and I still need to hear this.
My heart also goes out to you!
As y'all move through medical school and later residency you'll constantly feel less than, or below average. Imposter syndrome is real. Just remember that graduating in the last quartile in medical school still makes you incredibly bright. Y'all have excellent functional knowledge, and the medical students I work with always impress me with their ability to figure out clinical problems. It just feels daunting to acquire the knowledge required to practice independently, but you'll make it some day.
I just actually just started my first year of med school and in between lockdowns and adjustments to med school and online classes, there are times (or most of the time) when everything feels super overwhelming. To the point that you'll just keep questioning yourself. You're comment literally made me feel 🥺 and I thank you for that. It's really what I need.
They also constantly get treated like they’re idiots by every non-doctor at the hospital which doesn’t help at all
I agree with this and hate to see it. I am a surgical assistant with a general surgeon and see it all the time. I try my best to make every student feel equal and always remember how I felt as a newbie, especially around the sterile field!!!
To be fair, not all people that get into med school are smart Me. As an example XD
Big mood
>Medical students are a bunch of ~~above~~ below average people who often feel ~~below~~ above average while in med school Here, I fixed it for you based on the prevailing personality type at my school.
Ah, HMS student I see.
Thought I was pretty decent myself until I got into medical school. I realized there’s LEVELS to this smart/diligent thing.
As a chronically ill person I appreciate you even if you suck at medicine and graduate at the bottom of the class or don't graduate at all. Takes a lot of grit and intelligence and perseverance to even attempt it. And from what I can tell it seems like success is a function of how much physical and emotional punishment you can take as much as it's about intelligence and hard work. I like having qualified doctors but god damn, it's like frat hazing the shit they make you do.
Which makes it crazy that midlevels are seeing patients after 1-2 years, and medical students are seen as horribly dangerous and incompetent after their 3rd year when they have at least 4x the required clinical hours and 2 years of rigorous study. Not saying we should be seeing patients after third year, but legislative standards say that it’s more than okay for us to go out on our own at that point.
It seems so absurd why doctors don’t just open up “mid level” positions for unmatched MDs? They would be so much more qualified than these fake doctor wannabes (no disrespect to PA and NP who actually practise within their scope)
I feel dumb all the time lmao
After a shitty day, where I felt stupid for 12 hours straight, this was more than appreciated.
Plot twist: most people are near average, and that's okay because the average human is awesome.
Yep. Didn't know I needed this today.
Have an internal exam tomorrow. Haven’t even read 70% of the course. I’m still below average my dudes. Edit- it did not go well
I just took Step 1 and I feel like the dumbest mother fucker to walk this planet
Congratulations!! Enjoy some well-earned time off!
I am currently sorting through a pile of applications to residency. Y'all could make mother theresa blush
Just remember, there are a number of reasons why I'm a radiographer and NOT a doctor. Can you guess what one of them is?
I’m guessing cause med school is too damn long and you have a life?
Love the appended "anonymous" as if it's some profound quotation.
love
Constantly feeling like I’m in last place as a Med student 😂😭 this made me feel a little better though
To pretend to play devil’s advocate while actually making a counter point, we evolved to make relative, not objective, social comparisons because of our genetically-critical history living in *much* smaller, similarly minded groups compared to the plethora and diversity of groups we live in now. Most of us know we’re smarter and/or harder-working than the average person, but the virtual entirety of social feedback we receive now is from an extraordinary sample of the population- other medical students. & we must compete within this extraordinary sample of people to reach our goals. Smart people have smart doubts; doubts aren’t always anxious or dumb. Introspection about these doubts can help declutter an anxious mind and direct a path to success. Affirmation or faking it till you make it absolutely works for some people, but this is for those who cannot shake or become comfortable with their doubts.
I needed something like this. Thank you
I'm confused... why are some of these words in bold. Like what are they trying to emphasize on lol
It’s really just a game of who can stay happiest/more calm during the shitshow
You are not the imposter. Still sus though.
Me reading this after giving Form 23... :')
I need to read this every single day. Thank you for posting this OP, it was much needed.
Lol what the fuck above average people lol you people are weird
Yes but for everyone else and not me
Don’t patronize me :’(
why are the bolded words bolded the way they are lmao. i was skimming this while scrolling and read it as "medical students are a bunch of average people who often feel average while in medical school"
what if you know for a fact your grades are below your class average?
*What if you know for*
*A fact your grades are below*
*Your class average?*
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Is there a reason why average is bolded?
Above average in what
Why did the choose to capitalize “Bunch” This is *bananas*
I still don’t know how I made it. I still think I’m dumb especially on exams.
Awww
I'm starting In july and I'm already starting to feel this.
Idk. How about we don't rank people? I'm perfectly comfortable not being "above average" compared to the population. I think anybody who becomes a doctor so they can fill a need to feel above average has some issues to work out before they matriculate.
Hey, idk too but I think you missed the point of the post. It wasn't really about ranking people or med students wanting to be more superior than others – because in the first place, we almost never felt that way – but the point is, these students have so much more to offer than what they think they have. They feel so low about themselves that they often forgot that they belong to right where they are and that they can do, and have the courage to do, what others can't. It's not about medical students needing to feel above average. It's about telling them and comforting them that they deserve where they are.
Did anyone else read “Medical students bunch average average” too or
Surprise twist. We're all not that smart, and we're insane too. Because we are insane the pool of applicants weeds out the really smart ones, who end up going into other fields or become administration. BTW this is a joke.
You got into MedSchool to learn to siphon every penny you can for others while suffocating under student loan debt under the 'guise' of saving lives.
Remember that. Truth. Our GPA’s were higher we spent our time studying instead of playing with friends and it all paid off. We are living our dreams. Wayne state university representing.
>living our dreams
premed, I see