" Sloly said the new uniform policy is intended to help rebuild public trust in the OPS. "
Just a thought, but here's a crazy....way WAY out there kind of idea.
How about those cops that are found breaking the rules, being a danger not a help to the public, etc.....how about you actually punish them instead of protecting them.
That would go a long way to at least starting to rebuild public trust in the OPS.
I'm a lot more concerned about the Fifth Estate's reporting on Chief Sloly ordering reprisals against an officer for supporting his wife who came forward against Deputy Chief Jaswal's sexual harassment of her.
That and his efforts to undermine the "independent" review by a law firm of outstanding sexual harassment claims.
But I'm sure this distraction will pander to his base - as he has done every time serious allegations have been raised against his mismanagement and incompetence.
I'm surprised it was allowed in the first place, and also that they needed to issue a directive defining the term "uniform" to mean ONE look for everyone, and nothing stuck to you that wasn't issued.
Pathetic self-victimization. I respect police and I know they're necessary but this reeks of them feeling offended because people are tired of corruption and lack of accountability.
Thin blue line patches have been thoroughly coopted by the far right and their fuckery. Anyone wearing a patch like that now unfortunately gets grouped with them.
Times change, symbols change. This rule is overdue.
Good! The Ottawa force has enough controversy at the moment. The patch has origins in pushing back against the anti-police violence / abuse / BLM movement.
People don’t understand police are there to serve and protect and do their job. It must be hard to have so many people hate you just because of your profession. Unfortunately that comes with the territory. Instead of this Blue Lives Matter bs, how about you all hold your fellow officers to the highest standards to weed out the shit cops and clean up the force. That way You won’t have all these people protesting police brutality and racism.
One step in the right direction. All that patch symbolizes is that you're willing to stand up for other officers no matter what, instead of the general public you're supposed to protect
Cops shouldn't be wearing a single thing that would betray some sort of opinion. Québec made that clear with religion for public servants of all types, why would stuff like this get a pass?
They ignored the public delegates that brought that up at the board meeting tonight. Sloly also made it clear to the delegates and the board members that this uniform change had nothing to do with the thin blue line complaints. Officers are not allowed to wear any patches or personalization now.
Hopefully they ban police officers with maga hats too...
but seriously, I thought the point of a uniform was to make it clear who you represent. Embellishing it with idiotic flair defeats the purpose...
These guys are lucky they can have facial hair or tattoos if they want and don't have to follow something like this 6 chapter manual [https://www.canada.ca/en/services/defence/caf/military-identity-system/dress-manual.html](https://www.canada.ca/en/services/defence/caf/military-identity-system/dress-manual.html)
Authority figures trying to play the victim instead of being better during a time when their entire profession is in the hotseat is a very American thing to do.
Trying real hard to be culty. A whole month to take off modifications on your uniform ? Why ? Can any other job walk in with a modified uniform and get away with it ? Nope. I’m sick and tired of this double standard. There’s always a leniency for cops.
Read the article with the vision of cops are an armed organization. There is a part of this organization that decides they will make their own flag and then modify their uniform to portray it.
The Canadian flag, literally a symbol for EVERYTHING our country represents, including whatever solidarity you’re supporting as well. Taking the flag off your uniform to put a modified blue line bearing symbol is disrespectful and childish.
Oh and while I have your attention. If you see ANY kind of modification ( punisher included ) take a picture and run to CBC and tell your local MP. We don’t tolerate that shit here. Won’t have any cults lingering around the capital on my dime.
Edit: downvotes won’t get you anywhere.
Does your answer change if it was a Pride flag patch? Or a pink anti-bullying patch? Or a breast cancer awareness pink ribbon? What if his wife was killed by breast cancer?
Any room for nuance here at all, or just "rat them out and take their livelihood?"
I have no trust for the OPS and definitely not the RCMP. Far too many bad eggs that spoiled the rest. I certainly will not be willing to help them just to see that effort blow back in my face.
The fact that they have to be told about this shit, just shows you the mentality we're all going to have to at one point deal with. These people should have been fired. I know that's extreme but we don't need these middling IQ motherfuckers imitating and carrying on the way that their Yankee Doodle dumb fuck cousins do down south.
> Kind of as a "we don't want your kind here" signal and last warning?
That's the problem though. They DO want them here. Shit like this is just a disingenuous attempt to show they're "taking action" when really they're doing sweet fuck all.
Better to see them then you know what you are dealing with. It was nice to how much of a fucking asshole they were by the patch.Now you won’t know how much of a fuck up cop you are dealing with... typical, no need to root out the problem just hide it under the rug. Soooooo ops , just tear it up and start over ffs
That's retarded. The TBL patch represents the thin blue line that separates anarchy from civilized society, held together by our men and women in uniform. That's a good thing. Enough of this anti police sentiment. Police are a good thing and we should support them.
Instead, maybe the chief could do something useful and go after the rampant misogyny in our city's police department, instead of caving to the BLM morons.
Re-instilling a sense of pride and duty into [this patch](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/bb/bc/a9bbbc4250fc8190f68e05dae1687324.jpg) is the correct recourse.
- The “thin blue line” typically refers to the supposed role police play in maintaining order and keeping chaos at bay.
The police uniform does the same thing so I guess get rid of the uniforms as well.
Slippery slope fallacy + false analogy. The thin blue line badge is an ideological symbol not affiliated with the OPS. By definition it is not necessarily representative of the views of the OPS because it is not an OPS symbol. The OPS uniform is all of those things, however.
" Sloly said the new uniform policy is intended to help rebuild public trust in the OPS. " Just a thought, but here's a crazy....way WAY out there kind of idea. How about those cops that are found breaking the rules, being a danger not a help to the public, etc.....how about you actually punish them instead of protecting them. That would go a long way to at least starting to rebuild public trust in the OPS.
Yeah guys, slow down on the rape and that help the public trust.
I'm a lot more concerned about the Fifth Estate's reporting on Chief Sloly ordering reprisals against an officer for supporting his wife who came forward against Deputy Chief Jaswal's sexual harassment of her. That and his efforts to undermine the "independent" review by a law firm of outstanding sexual harassment claims. But I'm sure this distraction will pander to his base - as he has done every time serious allegations have been raised against his mismanagement and incompetence.
I have not heard about that. Do you have a link?
I'm surprised it was allowed in the first place, and also that they needed to issue a directive defining the term "uniform" to mean ONE look for everyone, and nothing stuck to you that wasn't issued.
What, they aren’t allowed 5 pieces of ‘flair’?
Pathetic self-victimization. I respect police and I know they're necessary but this reeks of them feeling offended because people are tired of corruption and lack of accountability.
Thin blue line patches have been thoroughly coopted by the far right and their fuckery. Anyone wearing a patch like that now unfortunately gets grouped with them.
Times change, symbols change. This rule is overdue.
Good! The Ottawa force has enough controversy at the moment. The patch has origins in pushing back against the anti-police violence / abuse / BLM movement. People don’t understand police are there to serve and protect and do their job. It must be hard to have so many people hate you just because of your profession. Unfortunately that comes with the territory. Instead of this Blue Lives Matter bs, how about you all hold your fellow officers to the highest standards to weed out the shit cops and clean up the force. That way You won’t have all these people protesting police brutality and racism.
Serve and protect or get the fuck out.
One step in the right direction. All that patch symbolizes is that you're willing to stand up for other officers no matter what, instead of the general public you're supposed to protect
Cops shouldn't be wearing a single thing that would betray some sort of opinion. Québec made that clear with religion for public servants of all types, why would stuff like this get a pass?
Quebec got fucking stomped on by every other province for that bill.... so clearly that logic only goes one way...
How about the thin blue line flag they have at the ottawa police association?
They ignored the public delegates that brought that up at the board meeting tonight. Sloly also made it clear to the delegates and the board members that this uniform change had nothing to do with the thin blue line complaints. Officers are not allowed to wear any patches or personalization now.
Were any Ottawa cops wearing Punisher logos? I know that's big in the states.
Yup. Especially the union reps.
Hopefully they ban police officers with maga hats too... but seriously, I thought the point of a uniform was to make it clear who you represent. Embellishing it with idiotic flair defeats the purpose...
Who allowed for alterations to be acquired?
These guys are lucky they can have facial hair or tattoos if they want and don't have to follow something like this 6 chapter manual [https://www.canada.ca/en/services/defence/caf/military-identity-system/dress-manual.html](https://www.canada.ca/en/services/defence/caf/military-identity-system/dress-manual.html)
Good.
Police are public servants not a line of defence against the public. You’re not a line of anything.
I don't predict anyone will be removing their thin blue line patches
Got rear-ended over the summer and one of the cops who showed up had a thin blue line patch on. Unsurprisingly, he was a dick.
Authority figures trying to play the victim instead of being better during a time when their entire profession is in the hotseat is a very American thing to do.
So a Sikh man being forced to not wear his turban on the job because it could be political is playing the victim? Got it.
If they are not going to assault women officers, and will do their job with dignity, i don't care what patches they are wearing.
I helped a woman I know decide if she should take a job at a police organization.
One metric she considered was "how many rape investigations against staff are ongoing."
I don't know about you, but I'd expect that to be zero. This one had dozens. They considered it a nuisance instead of a crisis.
She didn't take the job.
Good. That thin blue line shit is garbage. You're on our side. We pay your salaries
that’s our side
Trying real hard to be culty. A whole month to take off modifications on your uniform ? Why ? Can any other job walk in with a modified uniform and get away with it ? Nope. I’m sick and tired of this double standard. There’s always a leniency for cops. Read the article with the vision of cops are an armed organization. There is a part of this organization that decides they will make their own flag and then modify their uniform to portray it. The Canadian flag, literally a symbol for EVERYTHING our country represents, including whatever solidarity you’re supporting as well. Taking the flag off your uniform to put a modified blue line bearing symbol is disrespectful and childish. Oh and while I have your attention. If you see ANY kind of modification ( punisher included ) take a picture and run to CBC and tell your local MP. We don’t tolerate that shit here. Won’t have any cults lingering around the capital on my dime. Edit: downvotes won’t get you anywhere.
Does your answer change if it was a Pride flag patch? Or a pink anti-bullying patch? Or a breast cancer awareness pink ribbon? What if his wife was killed by breast cancer?
Any room for nuance here at all, or just "rat them out and take their livelihood?"
Saw one of these flags when i was out the other day.... was not thrilled at this.
But you ignore all the violence caused by BLM, no doubt.
I have no trust for the OPS and definitely not the RCMP. Far too many bad eggs that spoiled the rest. I certainly will not be willing to help them just to see that effort blow back in my face.
The fact that they have to be told about this shit, just shows you the mentality we're all going to have to at one point deal with. These people should have been fired. I know that's extreme but we don't need these middling IQ motherfuckers imitating and carrying on the way that their Yankee Doodle dumb fuck cousins do down south.
Can we get the guy who has one covering the side of a barn to take his down? Best seen from manotick Tim's
Maybe they should also put those that did wear them on some temporary leave? Kind of as a "we don't want your kind here" signal and last warning?
> Kind of as a "we don't want your kind here" signal and last warning?
That's the problem though. They DO want them here. Shit like this is just a disingenuous attempt to show they're "taking action" when really they're doing sweet fuck all.
Better to see them then you know what you are dealing with. It was nice to how much of a fucking asshole they were by the patch.Now you won’t know how much of a fuck up cop you are dealing with... typical, no need to root out the problem just hide it under the rug. Soooooo ops , just tear it up and start over ffs
Not once did they say the actual name. It’s the “BLUE LIVES MATTER” flag. Let’s be real here.
Wink, wink, clown world! Canada is crumbling but all the media seem to be interested in talking about is BS.
CBC is obsessed with race. Watch the national for a week they’re fucking obsessed with it.
That's retarded. The TBL patch represents the thin blue line that separates anarchy from civilized society, held together by our men and women in uniform. That's a good thing. Enough of this anti police sentiment. Police are a good thing and we should support them. Instead, maybe the chief could do something useful and go after the rampant misogyny in our city's police department, instead of caving to the BLM morons.
Re-instilling a sense of pride and duty into [this patch](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/bb/bc/a9bbbc4250fc8190f68e05dae1687324.jpg) is the correct recourse.
- The “thin blue line” typically refers to the supposed role police play in maintaining order and keeping chaos at bay. The police uniform does the same thing so I guess get rid of the uniforms as well.
Slippery slope fallacy + false analogy. The thin blue line badge is an ideological symbol not affiliated with the OPS. By definition it is not necessarily representative of the views of the OPS because it is not an OPS symbol. The OPS uniform is all of those things, however.