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Florida goes fascist 101, you can be arrested for filming the police if the police determine that you are hindering police activity. "You're filming me beating the crap out of somebody, you're interfering with my job"
Florida and Texas will probably be the first Neo Confederate States. If it comes to that.
Funny, SCOTUS has already ruled on this. You can film police in public as long as you're not interfering with their job. They are in public and have no expectation of privacy.
Be carful. Whip out your phone and the cops will say the bystander was reaching for a weapon
Fuck this. Keep filming
~~Fuck this~~. Keep filming
Of course Florida
A judge will throw this law out.... Even Florida isn't this fucked up.
Yup. This sort of thing has made it to the Supreme Court more than once now...
Good luck with that in court, you nobs.
how are people supposed to defend themselves with proof? a witness?
We had a couple of incidents in the last couple of years where I live.
A ticket Queen took someone's cell phone after the guy filmed her putting a ticket on a very expensive sports car that still had a couple of minutes left on the meter.
And another guy got arrested and the police also threatened the people who filmed it, we had a guy who did a Robin Hood he would go around with quarters and put them in meters that were close to expiration and he got arrested for it and the people who filmed the arrest the police tried to take their phones.
> But under House Bill 11, filed by Rep. Alex Rizo, (R-Hialeah), it would be a second-degree misdemeanor charge for anyone who is hindering law enforcement officers as they carry out their duties, and that could include taking cellphone video if law enforcement believes that recording is interfering with their ability to do their job.
I believe it's already illegal to hinder law enforcement. Standing off to the side with your phone in your hand is none of that.
Do you think a Florida police officer would be willing to claim that the filming made him focus on his reputation and the personal consequences to him thereby hindering his ability to focus on doing his job properly?
It’s a specious argument, but it will absolutely be made.
But will not stand up to constitutional challenges.
Wait... The supreme court hears those, right? Shiiiit
Accountability and transparency should be a thing. This bill would hamper that, ergo, fuck this bill.
Maybe if the cops didn’t fly their own flag we wouldn’t have to treat them like an invading terrorist force.
It will never pass...
Shit. It's Florida. It'll pass.
Ahem....some of those that work forces.
Are the same that burn crosses?
You want to get police filmed even more?
Because this is how you get police filmed even more.
I hear Florida has redesigned their license plates: Florida. The Shithole State.
Film anyway. make sure your phone is saving to an online third party site so when they steal your phone, claiming it's "evidence", you can still prove their misconduct.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Good question. We already know the police don't police themselves. They have no right to privacy while doing their job in public. That said, 30 feet is too much of a bullshit perimeter for snowflake cops. They will actively move forward to close the distance and harass innocent people.
There isn't a sudden increase in police brutality, however, there has been an increase in cell phone ownership.
We've also had a couple of incidents in Florida as well, ticket Queen took away someone's phone when she put a ticket on a sports car with still a couple of minutes still on the meter and we had a guy down here who was doing a Robin Hood and he got arrested for putting quarters into meters that were near expiration and they gave grief to people filming them arresting him
SCOTUS has already ruled you may, this is stupid, and won't go anywhere.
Police shouldn't be above the law and civilians have every right to film any abuses of power
No! Even with body cams turned on not to mention when they are conveniently turned off, we need to have as many angles as possible to hold EVERYONE, Police and Civilians accountable.
The SCOTUS has already ruled that such laws are unconstitutional. Why do RepubliQans keep wasting time and tax dollars passing laws they damned-well know will be thrown out in court. Fiscally responsible my arse!
If I never go to Florida again, it’ll be too soon.
Our family has decided to boycott Florida until they get their state government under control. I won’t spend a single vacation dollar there.
Unconstitutional. Will not be upheld.
How is that even enforceable? Police get the right to confiscate any phone within viewing distance of them at all times?
Cops would have to forcibly obtain your phone, and force you to unlock it before they could even verify if you were recording them..
I suppose they could just claim they thought it was a weapon and shoot you...
Hopefully this will be deemed unconstitutional. Who knows with this newly far right court.
Film it anyway.
Welcome to China! … or North Korea!
So does this mean I can take 4K DSLR video with a LTE upload?
Go figure. Whatever we can do to provide them with more immunity. It’s bad enough they can pick and choose when to utilize their required bodycams. Sad.
I don't think we were ready for wearables like Google Glass before, but this is a use case if ever there was one.
I would dislike this bill.
Of course it’s Florida
This has already been defeated in the Supreme Court...
Don't confuse the state legislature with that
Well that's dumb
They should make it illegal to pass bills that are clearly illegal, that will teach them
Of course Floridians think nothing about cheering this bill a week after saying how Cuba is the worst place in the universe because their government doesn't support freedom.
Fine, then wear a body cam, or just bring a GoPro with you.
This needs to be re-framed politically. This law is implying that the polices have a duty to murder certain people and if they are being filmed, they are being obstructed from doing their duty because few want the public backlash from killing someone on video.
"Proposed bill would award Florida taxpayer dollars to the ACLU for attorneys fees just like every time they jerk the base off with transparently unconstitutional nonsense like this"
Fixed the headline. Can someone tell DeSantis thank you for the donations?
This might be the first of the bullshit Florida laws I’ve thought “hey I might go out and do it just to challenge this” that I’ll actually follow through with. The Supreme Court has already ruled this is fine. Might as well get some publicity and fuck DeSantis over at the same time. We all know he’s only doing this to get headlines, maybe I’ll somehow manage to get more publicity than him.
If I actually get the courage to follow through this time, wish me luck I guess.
Republicans’ are likely billing this as “police reform”.
Them we start wearing body cameras
Whatever, keep them cell phone vids rolling in . Police don’t want to be held accountable for anything, so yeah let’s pass this bs law !!!
Why? Are the police afraid of the truth?
Fuck you Florida. We can’t give Texas back to Mexico due to its abundant resources. But I’m sure we can give you guys back to the Spanish without much negative consequences.
"But under House Bill 11, filed by Rep. Alex Rizo, (R-Hialeah), it would be a second-degree misdemeanor charge for anyone who is hindering law enforcement officers as they carry out their duties, and that could include taking cellphone video if law enforcement believes that recording is interfering with their ability to do their job."
No, that would be an obstruction of justice. It will never stand
How convenient for the cops!
Fuck the pigs, film every violent action and scummy thing they say
That is already law. You can not hinder a police officer from his duty. However, this has already been ruled by the U.S. Supreme Court. This is a first amendment protected activity. You have to stand back at least 10 feet. In practice 20-30 feet is more reasonsble.
Filming isn't hindering. 30 feet is bullshit. It grants cops the ability to harass bystanders. Fuck that noise. They are public servants. They need to do their fucking job in public, without whining. If they want to do something safe, go sell insurance.
Floridian and progressive here. Love how y’all trash Florida in it’s entirety so often. DeSantis won over a black progressive by 0.4% so we’re hardly fucking Alabama here. Also keep in mind we have every old racist asshole from pretty much the entire Midwest and south moving here regularly.
Mayor whatshisface had some major red flags. The Florida Democratic Party couldn't make a good decision if all our lives depended on it. Want good representation, replace Florida DP leadership with anyone competent.
Don't DeathSentence Florida!
Could. Could. What is could? Let’s find out.
*”People could be charged if they seek to interrupt, “disrupt, hinder, impede, or interfere” with the officers performing their duties, provoke physical responses from the officers or harass the officers.”*
Oh I see. So if you stand filming quietly and don’t get in the way, you can’t be charged. So this is sensationalist rubbish, gotcha.
No, if you stand quietly and don't get in the way but the officer doesn't like what you just filmed you could be charged with a vague "interfering" charge.
Why enact this law at all? Has filming police ever lead to a criminal going free or an endangerment to the public?
From a person who generally follows the rules: small price to pay to ensure accountability.
Okay if you're from Florida then you probably a couple of years back a ticket Queen took someone's phone after he filmed her putting a parking ticket on a car that still had money on the meter, and another guy had problems with the cops because there was a guy who was doing a Robin Hood, he walked around with quarters and put them in meters that were near expiration he got arrested for that and the cops gave grief to people who filmed it
If you interfere with a police office performing his duties, you should face consequences. Regardless if you’re filming him or not.
What concerns me is that the individual officer might get the ability to decide what "interference" is. I agree that if you're up in the officer's face it's interference, but what about 15' away? 20'? How far out of his way does one need to be before they're not "interfering"?
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