I, completely unrionically, like the ending.

People forget that Eren was a teenager given godlike power as well as omniscience within his universe, and expect him to remain sane. He even said himself he was losing it, and yet people keep complaining about the fact that he wanted to live a long happy life with his friends.

I hated it at first reading just the leaks, but after reading the whole thing I actually kinda like the ending. Titanfolk's just bitter the ending they wanted didn't happen

Your analysis of Ymir’s decision actually made me appreciate/understand that plot point more, so thank you!

He brought peace to Paradis? Aren’t they still at war with whatever is left of the world. Sure he saved his friends but Eldia is basically fucked bc the entire world (what’s left of it) still hates them and now they lost the power of the titans which gave them an advantage.

It actually surprises me how many people don't understand that Ymir and Fritz's relationship is supposed to be toxic and abusive, and it's always been portrayed as such.

I liked everything except for the fact that the worm just died. He didn’t even need to be there in the first place if that’s all they were gonna do with him.

Personally the ending chapter is like 7/10 for me. The overall series is like 9.5/10. People need to stop overreacting saying yams ruined the whole series or this is somehow GOT tier of bad. It's like, a little flopped and a little unsatisfying, but overall a good and functional ending. The only thing I was kind of cheesed about is that there is still war, but sure sure that was like the theme all along or whatever.

Finally some good fucking food. I totally agree.

Well he didn't bring peace to Paradis. They're gearing up for war with the rest of the world, who are represented by the Alliance. Any sort of resolution has been left completely open. Some may find that fitting, but I see that as very disappointing, as one of the main conflicts of the series didn't receive even a temporary resolution. But that's nowhere near the worst part of the chapter. Eren's character has been absolutely butchered. First of all he didn't complete any of his objectives. He didn't guarantee Paradis' safety, he endangered the friends he wanted to keep alive (caused Hange's and Sasha's deaths), and most importantly his most fundamental traits, his desire for freedom and his urge to fight, aren't even his to begin with it seems. Eren wonders why he wanted the Rumbling, and he thinks back to his birth when Grisha tells him he's free, and his eyes start to glow. These panels along with his comments on him following the path that leads Ymir to Mikasa imply everything about him is manufactured, which kills so much of his agency and responsibility. This is compounded with everyone thanking him for committing his genocide, especially fucking Armin of all people. Obviously "Chadren" was a meme, anyone with 2 braincells would be able to put that together. But Hobo Eren has so many scenes where he is being honest, rational, and self-aware. His speeches to Falco and Reiner strongly imply full understanding of everything, which makes his resolve that much stronger. Now it turns out he was a slave all along. And when has he expressed any romantic love towards Mikasa, especially to this level? The only romantic scene was the scarf scene, and he never brings it up again. Hell, he never brings up the scene in 123 again either, but apparently he really wanted to run away with her then. You'd think that scene would show up in his memory shards if it were that serious. His incel scene comes out of absolutely nowhere, and buries his character down another 6 feet. Ymir's Stockholm Syndrome is obvious, but her actions are anything but. When asked about her real motivations, all we get is "I don't know" or "no one can understand her". Doesn't that seem like a copout to you? Also we have no idea what her actions in 137 mean and how it relates to what we know of her now. She's a plot device that acts in contradictory ways, and with how much power she has, only having vague and superficial explanations is horribly disappointing. As for Eren killing his mom, it's implied he couldn't control his power, which is why Dina was redirected towards her from Bertholdt. It doesn't sound like he did it on purpose at all. So why didn't he try to fix it later? Obviously it would have failed, but the Founder isn't restricted by time, so you'd think he'd try to control Dina again and again, because you know, it's his mom? But oh wait, apparently Eren's resolve was just manufactured to get Ymir to Mikasa, so I guess he'll just give up without a fight now. Problem is we were only exposed to Eren's headspace during rare moments, and it was mostly when he was fighting. There was no buildup to this plot twist, and at this point all it does is render Eren as a plot device rather than a character.

I agree I liked it too. I thought it was a good ending. I'd compare it to the end of Death Note. It's not a perfect ending, but it does its job and serves its purpose. I was just hoping for a Devilman ending that would leave an everlasting impression on me

People say Eren's whiney moment with Armin was OOC but did they remember who Eren was? All he did was whine He whined about not being able to pass training because he couldn't balance He whined with Reiner during the flashback about not being able to do a thing, He whined when everyone was dying to protect him after he got kidnapped. He whined when Historia wasn't going to eat him He whined when Armin was going to die instead of Erwin It was only really post timeskip when we didn't see those moments. If anything Eren becoming cold blooded during s4 was more OOC than him whining

Same, people are overreacting a lot

I'm glad to see something good about the ending for once on this subreddit I personally really loved the ending, were there parts that could have been handled a bit better? sure, but that's something all manga deal with, it's not just an Attack on Titan thing I think a lot of people on this subreddit are so wrapped up in their own theories and hypothesis' and become so adamant about them being correct that they refuse to accept anything else as canon, it's happened many times before in the past I'm sure once they come down from the initial saltiness and actually give the ending some proper thought, most will see it in a better light, right now they are just so blinded by the ending turning out to not be at all what they expected that they don't want to think of it in a positive light

The English version made me understand better erens motivation so I agree

I think ymir appreciated that mikasa was able to love Eren unconditionally, pretty much seeing past his whole facade. She was the only character who didn't "forget" Eren and still cared for him. Essentially, Ymir wanted someone like mikasa, someone who can see past the God/monster and love the human carrying that burden. She saw it in Eren and Mikasa. I'm a little upset Eren and Mikasa never truly get their moment (happily ever after) but it's a fitting end. Good job on your views!

It really seems like the community has bitten into the mask Eren was wearing the entire time. Like people really didn't get that he's still the same vulnerable, angry, hurt child, lashing out at the world and doing what he feels is right, knowing that it's wrong in the eyes of so many...? He's not going to have an iron resolve when he's in the presence of someone like Armin. He's not going to stay unbreakable when his story is finally leading him to freedom, at the expense of his ability to continue living with the people he loves.

A few thoughts to add: Currently, I believe that when Eren had access to the Founder's powers, he could see past, present, and future all at the same time because that's how the parasite Hallucigenia perceives reality (in 4D, rather than 3D). So it sees its own lifespawn, from the beginning till the end. With him becoming the host of the parasite, I think he subconsciously made his way towards the Rumbling, as that would be the death of the Hallucigenia. His lack of comprehension makes sense, he saw events taking place at different times simultaneously, he said it himself that it was too much, basically. I think his death as the host caused the death of the parasite as well. The reason why we can see the scouts in the vapour could be because the Paths "realm" is the parasite's mind, if you will. All its potential hosts (people it can affect, the Eldians) are connected to it, and their consciousness resides in Paths after death. So when the Hallucigenia died, as it was evaporating, the people stored in it manifested in front of their surviving friends one last time, essentially saying goodbye to them before truly dying, finally. The future influencing the past to ensure its own existence is called a bootstrap paradox, titan Dina eating Eren's mom is a very good example of how it should work, but the extra "beauty" is that Eren's words make it sound like he was focusing on saving Bertholt so that he dies where and when he has to (to save Armin), and making Dina ignore him ended up in Eren's mom's death. Like I said, the motivation gained from it by young Eren did come in handy to secure the future. I think Ymir's role in all this has to do with the fact that the parasite doesn't create a true hivemind, since people linked to Paths don't lose their consciousness. With her being the original host, it could be that she was the conduit of the titan powers, so her cooperation is required. So her seeing that Mikasa loves Eren and still kills him is the release I suppose Ymir longed for, and that's why she played along. The memories Eren suppressed in people until he died are probably there so that they would understand the truth. At the very least, Armin should be able to work it all out, and I think that is an important thing in telling the world the truth. I believe that could be important in working towards a hopeful future where they don't try to kill each other out of fear.

I agree! I think a lot of people are bitter that their headcanon ending did not come true. I also wish some things had gone different, but in the end i don’t think this ending is that horrendous. And comparing the series to GoT is just unfair and reactionary imo

Thank you for your opinion.

i needed this copium thank you

holy shit you're so right about Carla. She was dead anyway really. there was no way to get out her after he legs were crushed, this makes me feel much better about what happened next.

Me personally, kinda lost all investment by ch 136 so I don't really care but: If Eren just wanted to kill 80% (how does he even know that), shouldn't that have been more believable? First off, he said he wanted to wipe them all out - all the people outside the Walls. But in the very last chapter Yams retcons that. How are Eren's friends alive but the Colossal Titans apparently just died? Maybe they're just off-screen. Why does Eren express possessive love for Mikasa only now? So Historia was completely irrelevant (Figures)? and the Father is either the Farmer or left ambigous? If only 80% were killed, the remaining 20% should be able to attack quite quickly. They weren't harmed at all, right? Their infrastructure and population is still intact. Ymir the plot device just vanished? What about moving forward? What about Trost Eren saying humanity wouldn't be united even by a common enemy? When did he change his mind? WHY THE HELL IS ARMIN GRATEFUL TO EREN, WHAT THE FUCK, DON'T COMPLIMENT HIM, THE ONLY THING YOU HAD GOING FOR YOU WAS BEING MORALLY GOOD AND BELIEVING IN ALTERNATIVES. I knew the ending was gonna be Armin centered so I lost investment long ago and it doesn't even leave that bad a taste in my mouth, but it's far too happy and rather bad.

> Stockholm syndrome is a thing which is what I interpret to be why Ymir loved King Fritz. Seeing Mikasa kill someone she loved to protect other people and to surrvive inspired her to defy king fritz for the first time and rid the power of titans from the world. Now she's either dead or living in paths It’s barely a syndrome. It’s a ‘diagnosis’ that was heavily popularized by the media during the 1970s after a hostage situation. There’s no DSM-5 classification for Stockholm syndrome and research on it actually existing has generally come out inconclusive. It’s honestly just a misogynistic cliche that people believe to be fact when it’s in actuality commonly used as a counter formula story to oversimplify an abuse victim perspective. The very fact that Yama decided for this to be a major plot point is an absolute shame.

Why did Ymir choose to die when she was pierced by the spear? And why did she side with Eren when he just called her a normal person?

No it wasn't consistent with his character Imo because he always wanted freedom and wouldn't stop trying to get it he was supposed to keep moving forward. I'f he abandoned his humanity he would have killed everyone. No it doesn't make sense because the worm is a physical being not a mental being. The worm wouldn't disappear it would look for a new host. Remember the worm allows titans its alive because not because ymir can just wish it away. Ymir was a omniscient being in the paths she had 2000 years to find what real love is. The mikasa thing is simply plot convince.

So how does Mikasa’s memory get altered if she’s an Ackerman? How does Mikasa know Eren’s head was in the colossal’s mouth? How come Mikasa was the key to setting Ymir free when Ymir had the power to free herself the entire time? How come Eren controls the Dina titan past Bert to kill his mother if he could’ve had Dina become a shifter by eating Bert, having his father take the founding to Dina and unleashing the plan before all his comrades and everyone had to die? How come we have no Eren pov for the entire final arc just to reveal that he never changed at all? Why did Sanje need to die? Why fight so hard (135-138) against the opposition in the first place if you’re Eren and your plan was to die anyway? Why did Eren keep blaming Reiner despite knowing Eren was the one who killed his mother? Why didn’t Eren ever try to deviate from his fate? Where did the original titan powers that Ymir got come from? Where did they go? So many holes left in this that I can’t justify this being a good ending at all.

I really liked the ending too. The theme that Eren is a tragic character is really fitting to the ending of AoT. This world really is cruel but beautiful. I will be happy though if some unanswered questions like what is Ymir really thinks will be answered somewhere..i hope

I liked it too, used to hate it but changed my mind after reading the actual chapter

How did Ymir have control over the worm. She fell into a hole and it latched on to her. It seemed to move independently of her. If anything, it was in control. I'm so confused as to how her "overcoming love" killed it.

I am done with this subreddit, it had its moments but unfortunately toxicity ran way too rampant.

>Ymir chose to remove the power of titans from the world because of how Mikasa influenced her descion. So it makes sense that the titanized people turned back and worm-kun goes bye bye. Lmao how do you know that Ymir has power over Worm-kun or the other way around. It was never explained. We just know Ymir got her powers from Worm chan. Now does that mean she has the power to destroy the worm or not is still not explained.

A post with logic on titanfolk? No way

Honestly I’m glad Eren harbored those kind of feelings for Mikasa. Shows that there was still a lot more humanity in him and emotions other than anger and sadness.

He didn't really bring peace even he knows that I think, he just gave them a chance to make peace with other nations now with him as a scapegoat and most of the world being destroyed

I'm completely fine with the ending, but the pacing bugs me, I hope mappa fixes it. One more point, people are asking what was the point of rumbling. Eren had to end ymir's curse, and if he did that without rumbling, paradis would have been ambushed, if not for hatred then for the natural resources. Then why not 100% rumbling - that was not in his hands, he knew he'd be stopped, when and how, he wasn't sure

I dislike the ending but I do like your positivity. I need that so I can leave this story with overall good and positive memories. Thank you.

I didn't really want a specific fan ending to happen, so believe me for once when I say I actually just did not like this ending and thought it was poor writing. No disrespect to anyone who does, though I vehemently hate this ending with all of my being. Let me explain why Eren's character was butchered atleast: "Eren was just a mentally unstable teenage boy, how can you expect him to finish global genocide? He just wants to be with his friends." Because we've been told numerous times throughout the series that Eren is a monster who will never stop moving forward with his goals. Him being a young teenager changes nothing. Even when he was a kid he's vehemently stood by his goal of killing all titans. Eren has almost never given up, and for the past **138 fucking chapters** Eren has been this way. So why is it in 139 he suddenly becomes an entirely different person? The Eren in 139 is not the Eren we've known for the rest of the series. Anyone who's actually read the damn manga can see that. 139 basically turned a blind-eye to Eren's character and development through the rest of the series and turned him into an entirely different person who never actually wanted freedom or any of the things he's been striving for throughout, again, **the past 138 fucking chapters**. This isn't a good example of character development, or Eren changing as a person, this is so unnatural and out-of-nowhere for Eren to become like this that it's just bad writing, plain and simple. You don't see people critiquing Thanos because "he should have regretted his actions and should have stopped mid-way due to his guilt", do you? Now do you understand why people are mad with Eren's characterization in 139, and with the Rumbling arc in general? "Still, he brought peace to the world. Isn't that enough?" He did not even bring peace to the world. 139 Eren is such a loser he didn't even accomplish his supposed goal. It's literally stated his friends will still have to endure conflicts with the remaining outside world until either the Eldians or they are destroyed. Remind you of something? Yeah, Eren could have just kept moving forward and none of this bullshit would've happened in the first place. They're still stuck in the same exact situation. Unless they trample the rest of the world, the looming threat that they may rise up someday and continue the cycle of hatred is everpresent. 139 Eren just left his friends to deal with it on their own. The most he accomplished was getting rid of Titans, which is a thing he could've done anyway after the rumbling. This is so out-of-character for Eren it's baffling. I don't hate or love the rest of this chapter, but they truly, honest to god ruined Eren's character. This is just my take though, I'm glad other fans are able to enjoy this ending atleast, even if I hate it.

Ymir's motivation to only end the 2000 years of extremely violent curse after watching some random ass bitch murder her lover is the weakest shit I've seen.

This copium pack is gas but I agree with you

Thanks for making this post I love the ending too.

I am kinda disappointed that Eren acts 'his age' only when it's convenient to the story

Reading the chapter listening to reluctant heroes, man it hits different

Lmao of course there are people defending this trainwreck. I guess those people who said fans will defend any ending were right after all

Spitting facts

Eren didn't bring peace to Paradis. They're now an extremely militant nation commited to exterminating the rest of humanity. That's the opposite of peaceful! Either way, do you not feel the ending was rushed? What happened to Hallu-Chan? What about Historia? What about epilogues for all the characters? This feels more like an any% speedrun than a proper ending to me. It did the absolute bare minimum to be called an ending.

I'm glad I scrolled this far so I could find another person who felt this way. It's not the best ending I've read by me any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly didn't hate it like a lot of the fandom.

honestly, Titanfolk have ruined the ending 😬 it was fine until you read the leaks comments

> Eren wanted to bring peace to Paradis, which he did. He had dozens solutions aside from mass genocide. He could have expanded the Titan walls, he could have enslaved Marley, he could have showed Marley the Titans aren't a threat anymore, .... Instead, he chose to kill everyone, without even thinking of an alternative. Hell, Armin even tells him some other solutions, and he just doesn't listen. ​ Also, his friends being at peace is only the fruit of convenience. The chapter clearly states the world is still at war. The manga only pretends it's the end of their suffering, because it's the last chapter and the author couldn't bother to show more. ​ > Stockholm syndrome is a thing And it doesn't happen randomly. There are always reasons for those feelings. In the case of AoT, it was as random as it could get. ​ And it's only scratching the surface of everything wrong in this chapter. Eren being suddenly in love with Mikasa despite not showing the slightest bit of that in the entire story ; the many contradictions in this single chapter ("everyone is at peace now... except they're not" ; "Eren had control... except he didn't" ; "mass genocide is bad... but thank you for it anyway"); Mikasa's ~~love~~ **obsession** for Eren being the key to this entire plot. The Titan power just disappearing because why not. Dead people appearing like ghosts. The happy ending vibes contradicting the actual situation. ​ I don't even like AoT. This ending isn't disappointing, it's just utter bullshit.

Chapter is still definitely ass imo, but I’m happy that you enjoyed it.