1,000 ways to skin a cat but only one to change a heart valve? Seems kinda sus
There are actually only 4-5 ways to skin a cat depending on how you count it, the rest came from unskilled practitioners trying to hide the fact that they made mistakes.
The most dangerous phrase is “I ship Nagito Komaeda x Onceler.”
It can get you killed by some people or worshipped by others. It can start a civil war in just the right place.
what the fuck
Does this person think that surgical techniques were handed down from god in their modern form and have literally never changed? Like the medical field as a whole, surgeries change constantly. They get safer and less invasive. They use new instruments. New machinery gets developed. I'm sure valve replacement surgery looks very different than it did 20 years ago. Yes, they still replace the valve, but that's like saying that cars are the same as they always were because they still have engines and wheels.
If surgeons thought like this we’d still be biting rope.
There's a big difference between "We've always done it this way" and "This is the way that is the safest and most effective at this point". Surgery procedures are "This is the way that is the safest and most effective at this point". This post is at best being pedantic and at worst actively misrepresenting medical knowledge
Wow this post is really dumb. Progression is about doing things in the most safe and ethical way for everyone. Heart surgery as it is now is the most safe and ethical way we know of, the old way was just letting the person die or accidentally killing them with uninformed surgical techniques.
Right. Medicine is a science based field, which is the exact opposite of “we’ve always done it this way”. They do things a certain way because there is evidence that it works, not because that’s how previous generations practiced.
The response kind of completely fails to understand why "we've always done it this way" is so damaging.
You would do the surgical procedure the way the surgical procedure is done because that's the way it works. You're not doing it because "we've always done it this way". You're doing it because that's the current best known methodology as dictated by science.
The damage from "we've always done it this way" comes from when it is used as a means to squash discourse. If the ONLY reason for a thing is because "we've always done it this way" that's really, really bad. That's NOT the only reason heart surgery is done the way it is.
Tradition is dead people's garbage.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people
This post is dumb
the most dangerous phrase is “I want to fuck Petra from Minecraft Story Mode”
You've chosen unwisely
I think the new most dangerous phrase is "this will be his heart valve. He will be a froot loop in a world of cheerios."
I think that "because we've always done it this way" is a bad reason if it's the *only* reason for doing something. We don't do surgery a certain way because of tradition, we do it that way because we have research and trials that show it's the best way to do it.
But if someone came along with a better way, then, hopefully, we would throw out the old method and use the new one. That's the point. It's about not stubbornly holding onto tradition for tradition's sake.
Ok so stupid question
How do you people think we innovate in medicine? Do we do it the same way we always have?
No. Random senseless changes? Bad. Change? Not bad.
There's nothing wrong with improving on tradition... nor is there anything wrong with coming to the conclusion that the old way was best after evaluation.
Wtf is "the language" supposed to mean? It's either "in the English language" or "in every language".
This is a terrible take from that tumblr user lmfao
“We’ve always done it this” is only a problem if it’s the beginning and end of your reasoning. As long as you understand your process, understand WHY you’ve always done it that way it’s fine.
I had an instructor tell me once "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got." I like that a lot more since it works wether your previous outcomes were positive or not.
"Why are we using leeches to cure diseases?"
"We have always done it this way"
lol what's with the influx of moronic posts here recently. what is this. how do these people think the world works
As someone repeatedly shocks a gay man over and over to cure him of his gayness
“Well, we’ve always done it this way! It’s just the right thing to do.”
Missed the point.
Like surgeons in research hospitals aren't doing experimental and groundbreaking surgeries every day
Like surgeons in small town hospitals don't actually kill people by refusing to use the new techniques because they know better
Good thing their username is fandom-universe bc they clearly don't live in the real world
My cousin just had her daughter prematurely on the 19, and both almost died because of the doctors unwillingness to admit he couldn’t handle her case because “he’s seen and dealt with similar”. He’s still denying it was anything out of the ordinary (preeclampsia) despite it ending in an emergency c section.
Small town doctors stuck in their ways kill people all the time and it’s frightening how easily they get away with it
We haven't always done heart surgery the same way
I always thought the most dangerous phrase was "hold my beer"
why do i get the feeling this quote is on the wall of some startup whose only function is to act as a middleman for enslaving others
this implies our heart valves are cheetos
I... does it?
... except heart surgery is always evolving and changing...
Tumblr being against "quirky and unique" quotes? That's like 4Chan being not racist
Genuinely, I work in interventional Cardiology and a few weeks ago we tried a new approach to do a heart valve replacement. Unfortunately it wasn't a fruit loop.
Also treated someones anyeresm via a vein under their eyeball a few months back. The techniques used these days are getting pretty wild!
Well, that comment was just for the meme... I hope
Absolutely nobody is saying that convention isn't useful, but you have to think about why that phrase gets used.
Nobody says "we've always done it this way" when there are better arguments for it. If you ask why, and they say that, that's supposed to be the end of the conversation. Get back to work, and please stop bothering me about our H.R. policies.
It's an incredibly dangerous phrase, but only in the context of being the only excuse for behaviour.
This is why I prefer to give birth out of my asshole.
So my dad went in for a valve transplant about a year and a half ago and it went horribly wrong and long story short he had to have a heart transplant two awful weeks later. He is doing great now. Anyway, now I’m going to picture this whenever I think about his initial surgery.
That person is just arguing to argue. Heart surgery can be backed by many different things as to why it has to be done a certain way. Most of the times you hear this is when people don’t have valid arguments, thus tradition takes over.
Id argue that the most dangerous frase is "how hard can it be"
Okay but the phrase still stands true (with some rare exceptions)
That’s how the first gay person was created. And I dare say why we would use the term FRUITY.
Y'all know the quote is supposed to dunk on conservatives, right?
I'm getting one of my heart valves replaced next month—this made me laugh so hard!
The phrase that will end humanity is "what does this button do?"
THIS. Followed closely by, 'What could possibly go wrong?'
But can you imagine the very first heart valve replacement?
"We've always let the patient die a painful death before"
This is dumb. The surgeon wouldn’t say “it’s always been done this way”, they would say that the fruit loop thing would kill the patient.
“We’ve always done it this way” is basically only used when there’s no real reason for it. If there’s a real reason, explain it instead of just saying that it’s tradition or whatever.
I think it’s ironic that the quote is in a school
School is supposed to be about learning new things, and teachers are constantly relearning the things they're teaching (at least in a good school they are) because things are constantly changing. Science, math, literature, and even our understanding of history are constantly evolving, so teachers need to evolve with them.
I have no idea what any of this supposed to mean
Its supposed to mean that "we have always done it this way," is often used as an excuse to not try new things. So why do we does the US use mainly stoplights, as opposed to roundabouts? Because we have always done it this way indicates you aren't sure if there is a better/more efficient way to do things, and you arent particularly trying. It also fails to acknowledge that the original reasons it was the best way may not apply anymore
ON THE OTHER HAND, it is often a tried and true way of doing things, and experimenting just to experimenting can often lead to worse outcomes
This [experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUstrn_DKs) kinda shows both sides of it (though it leans more towards that the original reasons dont apply anymore)
They could very well find a better way to do open heart surgery in the future, so the quote still applies.
If they never mixed up surgery techniques *ALOT* of people would be dead
Actually the first surgeon is now the tf2 medic
I wonder what would actually happen if the surgeon would do that during a heart surgery.
Nah that comment totally and completely misses the point. Also you really don’t think heart surgery can be improved? Oh you sweet little lambs.
To be fair, doctors are always learning new techniques and information. It’s because of this that they aren’t putting leeches on you and telling you that you have ghosts in your blood.
With enough lube anything is possible
It's important to remember what works. It's also important to keep looking for ways to do things better. That's what the original quote means. Not "IgNoRe CoNvEnTiOnS aNd AcT cRaZy!"
If a heart surgeon were to figure out a way to... say, laparoscopically replace faulty heart valves without open heart surgery? That would be worth changing. The post is about preventing complacent kneejerk adherence to what is, not about changing things for no reason.
“We’ve always done it this way”
My friend gave me a dirty look as I placed a +2 onto the +4, knowing full well that they wouldn’t be able to continue the chain.
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