China: "We'll fight till Taiwan surrenders"
Taiwan: "We'll fight till this island is nothing but scorched earth"
Rinse and repeat every year.
My Taiwanese friend's father said he's been listening to the CCP threatening to attack Taiwan since he's a teenager.
The same rhetoric's still going strong half a century later.
If there's one thing the CCP is, it's not very good with promises. I doubt it would ever really attack Taiwan.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-defence/taiwan-says-will-fight-to-the-end-if-china-attacks-idUSKBN2BU0HJ?il=0) reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)
> 3 Min Read.TAIPEI - Taiwan will fight to the end if China attacks, its foreign minister said on Wednesday, adding that the United States saw a danger that this could happen amid mounting Chinese military pressure, including aircraft carrier drills, near the island.
> Chinese-claimed Taiwan has complained of repeated military activities by Beijing in recent months, with China's air force making almost daily forays in Taiwan's air defence identification zone.
> Taiwan has not said where the Chinese carrier group is currently, or if it will go next to the disputed South China Sea, where a U.S. carrier group is currently operating.
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Wtf else are they supposed to say?
"We will capitulate after 5 days of war"?
Don't you always find to the end by definition? If you stop fighting it ends...
China won't attack, at least not for a while. Their tactic for the last month or so, and probably for the next few years, is to make constant minor incursions into Taiwanese airspace/waters. The Taiwanese government can't sit by and do nothing but also can't sustain the costs of keeping China away forever. China has the resources to just drain away their moral and economy until the other powers give up on supporting Taiwan or are too distracted by other things to come to Taiwan's aid.
This is by far the most likely scenario. Why should China leap gung-ho into an expensive and damaging invasion? They have the patience to wait.
The same headline comes up every few days. It's literally posturing from China and US giving reaffirming statements.
In the late 90s when I lived in Taiwan, these things were in the papers every day.
There would be some super patriotic general saying "next week, I'm doing it! I'm invading!"
Nothing every happens.
So we're all of the same mindset that this is political posturing.
Let's play hypothetical's for a moment...
What happens if China *does* attack Taiwan, what then? In all seriousness.
Massive economic downfall in the electronic sector (especially for china who buys 60% of all chips made in the world), and china gets stuck with an unproductive island full of people who hate them.
Taiwanese American here, went to the military in Taiwan for a year (total joke, was a medic). Worked and lived there for almost half my life. Threats have been traded since my dad was a kid. In the military they still have this idea that Taiwan will “take back China” as propaganda, yet China has already infiltrated TW by increasing trade reliance and cultural influences with tiktok n such.
China will never attack, for two reasons Taiwan is integral to the world economy (especially around the manufacturing of computer chips) and the USA (along with The EU, UK, Australia, South Korea and Japan). Any move against Taiwan would devastating to China’s growth and economy and would be of zero value (they would get nothing out of it); they are more than happy with the status quo and the occasional posturing. This might not always be the case, China is building up their Navy to have the ability to project power beyond their territorial waters and it’s almost certain Taiwan plays into this. However they are a long way from being able to counter the USA’s Navy (especially when backed by the aforementioned allies) and China has a growing number of domestic issues that are getting a great deal of international attention which complicate their global political position and long term are seeing a move of manufacturing to other Asian countries like Vietnam for textiles and India. So domestic issues and a transition to a service based economy along with the global political fallout would make any move on Taiwan a hard sell and it’s unlikely their growing Navy and military capabilities will be enough to counter this any time soon.
China won't do it for one simple reason: it's not worth it.
Once Taiwan becomes worth the trouble, they'd do it. But for now, there's no benefit to do so: China isn't stupid.
They'll continue abusing and taking advantage of everything for as long as they can and continue building up their military so no one can beat them in their home territory.
Once some major world event happens or shit hits the fan and peacetime is over for whatever reason, they'll swoop in and take Taiwan. And they'll get it easily.
But right now, it's not worth it to sacrifice peacetime for Taiwan.
I've been seeing these headlines for years and everytime it attracts hundreds of commenters on reddit discussing this as if it would ever really happen. Spoiler: it won't.
Remindme! 3 years
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Death to all tyrants
I can't believe how many experts we have in Chinese foreign policy here in this thread! Strangely they all have wildly different opinions, but are completely sure of themselves.
Don't ned to worry about fighting to the end because China won't attack it's all MUSCLE FLEXING.
Antoher "fun" news today, ha.
It will fight to the end alright.
I use to get these snackable beans from the Asian grocery store and they were made in Taiwan. The packaging looked plain and cheap but they were delicious and a little chewy. Any Taiwanese people know what snack it’s called
Any more details you can provide? Like color, logo, taste, size, year, etc., cause bean snacks aren't that unusual here in Taiwan, not to mention it might be a export only version
this is the frontrunner for starting WWIII.
And it's been going for a quarter of a century. Barely anything has changed. Add it to the pile.
My family are Taiwanese. It’s been like this since forever. China isn’t going to do shit.
Good, fuck the CCP
WW3 speedrun any %
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China will not risk war. It will not give America the excuse to get involved. But China will probably use economic method to make Taiwan suffer.
So real China will fight fake China? Noice.
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